He was already pretty old and missed a full season in 1999 because of a torn achilles a very tough injury to overcome. I look at this season a lot like 02, Herm has a QB competition with an OC who set up the entire Offense to fit Chads game and Chad gets limited work in TC losses the QB comp to an old injured toast QB and has to come in to rescue the season. 02 might have been a very interesting year if we didn't get off to a crappy start and have to play on the road week 2 of the playoffs. 2 or 3 more wins that year and we likely have a bye and home field for the playoffs. We have already seen what a QB competition between a veteran QB who is damaged goods and a third year high draft pick plays out. It also lead to a huge contract based on very little actual performance which did the team no good at all.
He threw to Moss one out of his four years at Marshall. He was a redshirt freshman that year. Then Moss moved on. Chad played 3 more years.
This is a terrible thread that betrays an utter lack of football knowledge. It's almost as if the poster wasn't watching these games. Pennington's arm injuries have obviously robbed him of what was once a very promising career, but he was not to blame for a majority of those losses. The Jets inability to run the ball, inability to stop the run, and inability to rush the passer put them at a terrible disadvantage every week. As in most cases where the quarterback either gets all the credit or all the blame, Pennington was the scapegoat. I would prefer to see Clemens start as I feel like he deserves a fair shake with a healthy roster, but if Pennington emerges from camp as the clear cut best guy and Clemens is still making bad decisions, throwing at receivers feet, and happy dancing in the pocket, it might be time to pull the plug and move on. The selection of Ainge tells me that the Jets front office has explored that scenario. -X-
Kentucky Jet, Doesn't Chad deserve the same chance with an improved O-Line, healthy WR's and an exciting young rookie Tight End? The Jets didn't make all these off-season moves to rely on whether Chad or Kellen would be the deciding factor. Let 'em play it out I say.
Of the all posters, I agree with this one the most. Clemens showed flashes last year (vs Washington, Miami), but was disappointing. He will have an opportunity to win the job this year--a good opportunity. Have to believe that Mangini wants him to win it as much as the rest of the Chad-haters do. But if he continues to fling balls spastically into the ground or just hold the ball until he's sacked, I don't want to watch that either. Chad Pennington has taken the Jets (and he has taken them) to 3 playoffs in the 4 seasons he's been healthy and got most of the starts. No other Jets QB has done more. Chad has won two playoff games, no other Jets QB has done more. Chad will be two years removed from his last surgery so there's hope his throws may be a little stronger, and he's had a year to study all the bad throws he made last year. He's got a better offensive line and another new weapon. If Mangini coaches with a little more faith in his offense, Pennington has a chance to put together his best season ever. I believe he will. But we'll see in training camp. I think Clemens has too play even with Chad to win the job, and I think Pennington has to be significantly more effective than Clemens to keep his job.
Obviously Pennington is not solely to blame for most of the losses last year. There were a lot of things going wrong at once, but his interceptions and blunders did not help things. But he does absolutely nothing to improve the team's chances of winning either. People credit him for "getting us within a kick of the AFC championship" and yet he had almost nothing to do with it. That Steelers game should have been over LONG before it was if the Jets had been able to put up any sort of offense. The Jets DID NOT SCORE AN OFFENSIVE TOUCHDOWN in that 2004 Playoff game. Is that an example of Chad "leading"? People ON THIS BOARD were railing about Chad's ineffectiveness DURING THE GAME, and yet now he's a saint only because he got there. I AM NOT saying Ainge should start right now. But Chad had his one good year SIX YEARS AGO. He has not been good since and is absolutely the worst option to start at QB. I would rather have someone that has a chance at success than someone with no chance at improving the team.
The only playoff game that Chad "won" was the 2002 Colts game. He's been mediocre at best in every game since. Herm Edwards has been to a lot of playoff games too. Is he a good coach? If being present for playoff games is the barometer for success here, then you can have fun waiting for that Superbowl for another 40 years.
Curtis and the rest of the superbowl ready team won games for us despite our quarterbacks shortcomings! When Curtis went down the truth came out!
this team is obviously being put together this year for Chad to start......Added a vet TE, and drafted one...added depth and RB and FB, and added to the OL...and revamped the Defense. I think it's safe to say Chad might enjoy some more success with added protection, a hopefully upgraded running game and a better defense.... we shall see
That's pure assumption...and you know what happens when you assume. This team is being put together to win games...no more...no less.
well if we start ainge only 1 good thing can come out of that, lock for the #1 pick next draft. iam sticking with that other excuse we have, the offensive line remember.
No, he also played well in the San Diego win, throwing the 50 yard score to Moss and the drop-off to Becht and leading us to field position for the FGs. However, he has looked very bad in both division round games. I'm not blind to Chad's faults; he's got to have a big time return to form in order to stay on the team after this year. I want to see the Chad that beat Brady and the Pats in 2002, and the Chad that whistled the ball around the field in Tennessee during the 2004 opener. He needs to be good and consistently good. That's his biggest fault. And if he wins the job and gets us into the playoffs, he needs to get to the AFC Championship. He can't disappear in the divisional round as he's done twice in the past.
well that's my oppinion and i'm sticking to it.......all signs point toward a conservative type offense that is being built to accomodate Chad......
I can respect that...just remember that KC is considered the same type of ball-control QB with a better arm.
Every team needs a solid OL to succeed. The TE that was drafted is hardly a TE for a conservative offense. He's been compared to Dallas Clark. Does Peyton Manning strike you as a Chad clone? FB was a position of need because we had difficulties with the running game last season. Therefore, we brought in a proven lead blocker. Again, this is hardly a sign that we're going ultra-conservative for Chad. All it signals is that we want to improve all facets of our offense. We revamped our defense because our defense was pitiful last season and we needed to get more personnel suited to run the 3-4. IMO, the only move that points to any sort of QB issue at all is the drafting of Keller, and he'd be much more productive in an offense with a strong armed QB. If you had wanted to make the point that we're going conservative, you should have mentioned the fact that we continue to operate with a WR corps that is filled more with possession type receivers than deep threats. Again, the Keller draft negates that somewhat. However, it would have helped your argument.
my point and opinion continues to be they already know who the starter next year is.......Chad......and yes, not doing anything once again to address the lack of a deep threat also points to this.
We have a deep threat already...his name is Chansi Stuckey...bad support of your argument. With all the backing Chad has throughout the organization and fan base...don't you think if the CS had already decided to start him, they would have announced it?
Is there a policy on banning idiots who start threads? It's people like that that make me aggravated to be a Jets fan.
I agree...this thread really has no point. Even the thought of Ainge playing over CP and KC is honestly stupid...
