Jets already have an explosive player on O

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  1. Harpua

    Harpua Well-Known Member

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    If this is not sarcasm its perehaps the dumbest thing I've ever read on here and thats saying a lot.
     
  2. notjustQBs

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    Harpua, ANJI doesn't watch the NYJs. That's the only excuse for such a statement. I guess this guy doesn't count screen passes (which happen by the way BEHIND the line of scrimmage).
     
  3. FJF

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    no one saying feature back just 10-12 touches a game.tj still needs to get his 20
     
  4. Harpua

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    1) Seems true, but the same things were said about priest holmes and he was a pretty good back.

    2) So far true. Hopefully that can be made less of an issue with improved line play.

    3) I don't want him as a #1 but as a big part of a two back rotation. Let he and Jones share the load.

    Not saying Dmac will not be a very good NFL runner, but I'm just not assured he would be the best option at that pick depending on how things play out.
     
  5. Harpua

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    Now that I think about it, didn't he cathc a screen and go for about 40 or 50 yards against the dolphins in his rookie season?

    Edit: Yes he did.

    G Rush Yds Y/G Avg TD Rec Yds Y/G Avg Lng YAC
    31 222 1003 31.3 4.5 7 61 483 15.1 7.9 64 8.2
     
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  6. Kris 15

    Kris 15 Well-Known Member

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    However you slice it, Jones is not putting up 1,700 rushing yards. He isn't even putting up 1,700 combined yards. 1,700 yards between Jones and Washington should be what we're hoping for.
     
  7. notjustQBs

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    Watch the smoke.
     
  8. mr nyjet

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    wonder if washington would be better as a slot receiver on every 3 wr set instead of being a part-timer in the backfield?:eek:hmy:
     
  9. FJF

    FJF 2018 MVP Joe Namath Award Winner

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    like warrick dunn was?besides no one is saying every down back
     
  10. notjustQBs

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    It is appropriate that we have a two back set that nobody knows who is going to get the ball.

    If the OL becomes dominant, as I think is the plan here, you will find that the BS offensive strategy will simplify the sets and run multiple plays off the same set.

    This is the genius of the Colts offense.

    Instead of a lot of substitutions they run different plays from the same set.

    If you've got a real OL you can do it.

    It doesn't matter about every down backs when you've always got two backs on the field. Or three backs on the field with Richardson.

    Could be a lot of fun.
     
  11. BleedGreen4ever

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    All I'm saying is we not drafting Mcfadden because we have Leon Washington is stupid...unless i miss read the second line of the opening thread.
     
  12. ANJI

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    You can call it what ever you want but he doesn't have break away speed, as noted by the fact that he hasn't scored a single touch down over 20 yards.

    I don't need to see Washington getting caught from behind on a screen pass or Washingtons 3-4 Kick return touchdowns, because you don't need break away speed to be a very good return man. You can cite Brian Mitchell for that one. One of the best and one of the slowest running backs I've ever seen in my life.

    Leon is a good player, he is very quick and shifty, but he DOES NOT HAVE BREAK AWAY SPEED. You can find all the youtube vidoes you want, he is getting caught from behind because he doesn't have an elite gear. Westbrook does and dunn does, that is why the don't more then half a season without scoring atleast a handful of touchdowns from 30 plus yards. Washington hasn't done it in two seasons worth of play.

    Put that in your pipes and smoke it.
     
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    I agree 100%, GIVE LEON THE DAMN BALL!! I would much rather the jets draft gholston or mckelvin with the #6 pick. And if there really set on picking up an offensive player maker then pick a WR, NO RB, NO MCFADDEN!!
     
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    I followed this guys advice.

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  15. surge511

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    Leon certainly provides a good energy to the offense, and is a great ST player. He is quick and elusive. However, I don't see him as a top back, a guy you can hand the ball off to 25-30 times a game and guarantee the 100 yards, like Curtis. There were many games where Curtis would carry the offense to wins, and I don't see Leon being that guy. However, he is still a very valuable player to have on the team.
     
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    I love little Leon but DMC is going to be legendary.
    It's all wishful thinking and a 50-50 chance but I do believe DMC can have the same impact on the Jets that Curtis Martin had.
     
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    Your original statement said he didn't have a touch from scrimmage more than 20 yards. The screen play was way more than 20 yards, so now you're changing your statement to a TD of longer than 20 yards. On the screen play he was juking people for a good portion of the run and had to juke out the safety all the way down the field which gave the people chasing him a chance to catch up. If he was running downhill and got caught from behind I'd agree.

    Show me where he's been caught from behind once he gets through the secondary and he's running straight down hill. You can't, so smoke that shit homey. Shit, I shoulda used caps lock.

    He doesn't get enough touches on offense.
     
  18. lightning

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    Theres only ever a couple of guys in each draft, some times less, that you think can be SPECIAL. Thats the difference between McFadden and the rest of the backs in the draft. If he's there, you take him.
     
  19. notjustQBs

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    With TJ and Leon, nobody is going to get 30 to 40 touches by himself a game.

    The NYJs don't want to be one-dimensional in their offensive strategy.

    If the CS and FO decide to draft McFadden he will compete for the ball in the NYJ offense just like everybody else.

    As a rookie, he will have to show that he knows how to follow the blocking that he has, that he carries the ball in the right arm based on which way he is running, and that he can take care of the ball at all costs.

    Otherwise, he will be running a helluva lot of laps just like Leon did originally.
     
  20. Harpua

    Harpua Well-Known Member

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    Say what you want, but your backtracking because you were proven wrong.

    Leons 40 time 4.42 40 yard dash

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leon_Washington

    Westbrook's:
    http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3337822

    Brian Westbrook had 2 touchdowns of over 30 yards last season http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=5977

    Not exactly a "Handfull" of them.

    Westbrook's speed was a huge issue comming out of school and one of the reason's he dropped in the draft. Leon's issue was his so-so senior season and the injurys he battled.

    There is no doubt that Leon has not done anything to compair to Westbrook in the NFL so far, but your account of a great speed difference is nothing but misjudgement or stupidity. Your arguments are weak, misfounded, and at best a very bad attempt at trolling.
     

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