Getting sick of the darksiders, Chad haters, and negative attitudes...

Discussion in 'New York Jets' started by rickjet, Apr 7, 2008.

  1. jonnyd

    jonnyd 2007 TGG.com Funniest Poster Award Winner

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    shaaaaadap and get the fuck oout of here then
     
  2. #1 Jets Fan

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    there no way we can blame all this on Chad
     
  3. VickBlows

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    What (is your theory on what) brought her down?

    I?ve got a few Fort Schuyler grads in family?which leads you to learn allot about shipwrecks over the years.
     
  4. Miamipuck

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    My posts were complete and utter sarcasm but thanks man.


    See above........
     
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  5. mr nyjet

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    that states it about as well as anyone could.:beer::jets:
     
  6. eagle0588

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    chad just isn't the present or the future of the jets franchise. All the chad supporters just need to realize that. No matter how good of a person he may be and how much charitable work and donations he does get involved in, his QB career is something that will always be criticized for. He just isn't strong armed which definitely limits what the playcalling and makes the opposing defense easier to plan against him. Being an intelligent QB which many consider Chad to be can only get you so far, it is one part of being a QB, the other part is having the physical tools to do whatever the offense needs to do to win. His play the past year has been abysmal and while he may be a class act and won't demand a trade or be a cancer in the locker room, the reality is that his career as a QB is coming to an end. He may be a great mentor to a young QB and i'm sure he may even be a great coach one day. But the fact is that unless he's willing to take a massive pay cut and become a backup, the jets just won't advance very far. The coaching also needs to realize this and need to hand over the reigns to Clemens and let him grow as a young QB
     
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    Overloaded cargo (Iron ore/Coal?) along with a rare great lakes superstorm. Wasn't that the official explanations?
     
  9. Br4d

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    It could easily have been a rogue wave in combination with all of the above. One of the last transmissions from the Fitz included the details that they had lost the radar and there was heavy damage to the ballast tank vent pipes. This is probably indicative of a single event moreso than continued battering from a storm which the ship was engineered to handle. Lake Superior has the longest unbroken east-west axis of the Great Lakes and it sees larger wave sizes than normal in storms. It's not unthinkable that a 70 to 90 foot wave did the Fitz in.
     
  10. VickBlows

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    The NTSB’s take was that it was loose cargo hatches but I think that’s bullshit. It seems pretty obvious to me…McSorley lost his radar so Bernie Cooper was shadowing him in the Arthur Anderson; Anderson plotted him way out of the shipping channels and really close to the six fathoms near Caribou Island and Michepicoten. In rough seas I would think it would have been impossible to not bottom out and can opener the hull.

    Right after he passed Caribou Island – McSorley reported the starboard list (in other words he was sinking) I think the bow gradually started sinking and then a rouge wave hit it and pushed it under the water. Once this happens on a ship like that, with the screw still turning it will literally drive the boat under the water until it hits something, breaks up or stalls.

    The Fitz is sitting in around 500 feet of water and she was 700 some odd feet long. Doing the math, you could run the bow into the sea bed with the stern still at or near the surface. Once the bow hit the floor, it broke in half, the stern sunk and it was legend. It doesn’t take a huge wave when the bow is sitting low, just enough volume of water to push it down enough that the screw is in the water and the bow is heading under.

    No way it broke up on the surface (a popular theory). When ships break up on the surface the bow and stern are historically found miles apart.
     
  11. Mr. green T

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    She was loaded with iron ore, but it was Chad's fault because his arm strength wouldn't allow him to throw the ship further than a 10 foot wave. It was a pick/deep 6.
     
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    Too much water.
     
  13. Br4d

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    Interesting theory.
     
  14. GreenHornet

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    I am still mad the McCareins didn't catch that pass from Clemens in the Ravens game.

    I always wondered if your TGG name stood for Roger Vick or is it the Dog moronic QB that completely embarrassed his whole franchise.
     
  15. championjets69

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    Yes but they recovered the bell which is now part of some sort of memorial to the ship
     
  16. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    This thread is officially the most confusing one on the first page of the board.
     
  17. championjets69

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    Probably because you do not tune into the History Channel
     
  18. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    I tune into the history channel all day long and can't remember Chad Pennington or the posters of TGG.com ever being mentioned on it.
     
  19. championjets69

    championjets69 2008/2009 TGG Darksider Award Winner

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    You right about that but the Fitz has been on many, many, many, many times. In fact just last nite it was on again
     
  20. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    The Edmund Fitzgerald is not part of what confuses me about this thread. People replying about Chad and TGG.com to Fitz comments do, however.
     

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