Jets- top 16 snub?

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  1. FOURTHANDLONG

    FOURTHANDLONG Active Member

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    Not to Mention Buffalo is not looking to bad either. At the end of the day the only proven commodity that we got was Faneca. We threw money at the other guys and are just hoping for the best. Granted Tangini has drafted well over the years so their evaluation of talent is pretty good but we still over paid for guys that might turn out to be busts.
     
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    If you don't think he will have input in helping the coach your delusional.
     
  3. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    If Bill Parcells is going to micromanage his HC to the point where he is 'helping' to design gameplans, then the Miami experiment has already failed.
     
  4. SameOldJets2008

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    i dont think he will have much input. Hes the director of football operations. He put all the guys he wanted in power. If he wanted to be the coach, he would have been the coach.
     
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    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    If you think that the Director of Football Operations has anything to do with gameplanning opposing teams, then you are completely clueless.
     
  6. GreenMachine

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    I guess I am delusional.

    Why would the guy who hated when GMs and owners micro managed him, do the same to his staff?
     
  7. FOURTHANDLONG

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    Im quite sure he will give his coach some helpful advice regarding some teams. Im sure the coach would ask for his input. Parcells is not going to design a gameplan or call a play but he will definitely drop the coach a few pearls of wisdom from time to time.
     
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    Dropping helpful pearls of wisdom from time to time is not micro managing.
     
  9. Jets81

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    It's kinda hard to believe that Parcells will have no input whatsoever in at least some aspects game planning. I'm not saying he'll be in there watching film until long hours of the night, but if the guy sees something he thinks his team can exploit, or sees something that the team is doing that he doesn't approve of, I can't imagine he'll hold it in for very long. He'll probably continue to think like a coach even though it's not his role with the team.
     
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    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    When Parcells was DoFO for the Jets, he had little to do with the operations of the team itself in any coaching aspect. He took that job so he wouldn't have to be a coach. Now all of a sudden he's going to change his tune? The only difference here is that he got the coach that he wanted instead of being shelved with Al Groh. People keep thinking we're going against Bill Parcells on Sunday. We'll actually be going against Tony Sparano. I can understand thinking that BP will give some advice, but if he gets as involved as some people seem to think, he is setting his HC up to fail in a big way.
     
  11. Jets81

    Jets81 Well-Known Member

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    Whether or not he plans to be a back seat coach I don't know. What I do know is that he's a guy with a good track record when it comes to turning around football teams. He's not coaching this time and that could be a huge difference, but he still has an obvious vested interest in seeing the team win games. For that reason alone I think he'll be more then forthcoming with "advice" for his hand selected HC.

    You're right though about going against Sporano. His team, his game plan, especially if they're winning. Still, no way to know what kind of influence he'll have on game day preparations.
     
  12. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    Assuming that a successful coach will be a successful FO guy doesn't make any sense to me. His track record as a front office guy isn't exactly stellar (although he has a limited control group of 1 year), and the two jobs aren't nearly the same. I understand the notion that he will have a positive impact on the Dolphins, he can't possibly do worse than they did the past few years, but I'm not going to assume he will be successful either.
     
  13. Mexican Buc

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    Vince Young is a bum. Played horribly. But all the same he's a playoff bum along with all the WRs there.
     
  14. Jets81

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    I don't assume that he'll be as successful in the FO as he was as a coach. Thats why I said him not coaching could be a huge difference. This, for the most part, will be uncharted territory for Parcells. But, as you stated, the Phins really have nowhere to go but up and they have in Parcells a guy thats be able to do good things wherever he's gone. I'd feel better about the Phins if Parcells wasn't involved, but he is and we'll see what he can help them accomplish soon enough.
     
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    Im not one for a Qb that Can't read a defense myself but at the end of the day he does win games.
     
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    Oh he is huh? Last I checked he has not even won a playoff game, I believe the term I hear you use is one and done? Your favorite whipping boy has even won a couple playoff games..
     
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    He is a one and done Qb who has had less talent around him than my favorite whipping boy! He never had a great o-line or Future HOF running back to hand the ball off too. Not to mention a receiver as good as coles or Cotchery for that matter. They actually signed Justin Mc-drop as one of his receivers this year. You do realize he made the pro bowl in his rookie year, Won a National Championship and is only coming into his third year in the league. He also has more comeback victories in one month than our Qb has had in Six years! Please be advised that I am not a Vince young supporter and this is just how your boy Chad stacks up against him. At the end of the day Vince has done more with less help! The point being there is upside with Vince!
     
  18. pennington4life

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    Vine young will be a stud
     
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    Assuming you mean Vince I think so too. I think he has a few super bowls in his future and I really wish we had him.
     
  20. Attackett

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    I'm not sure I am seeing what some of you others are seeing in Young. What about his game makes anyone think he is going to be a stud QB? He sure hasn't shown it on the field yet and I'm not sure he ever will.
     

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