QFT. If we're absolutely forced to pick and those 3 are gone, then whichever of the RBs they like best is cool too. Then I'd try my ass off to walk away with one of Moore, Langord, Balmer, Bryant, Rubin, Harrison, Hayden, Pressley, or even Guion.
You say that now, but watch them go in the mid-teens late 1st round.. it seems impossible right now yet i've seen it happen every year. BPA ranking for DRC and McKelvin are, to me, still at #11 and #15 respectively. and CB is still this huge need?? back to back years on CB, paying one that may be less as effective than Revis and he makes more? That would be hell for this FO... the poll is fine. I wouldn't even rule out Ellis or Dorsey in this draft, you never know whats going to happen. Gholston and McFadden are the non-reach/obvious picks at this point.. thats why they are listed.
If we have a chance to draft McFadden and don't, you can add that to our draft blunder highlight reel as soon as it happens. Gholston, Long, Trading-down, etc. should be fall-back plans only if McFadden is gone.
Mt feelings exactly. I have very high doubts about either Long being there. I'm also worried about Gholston getting taken in the top 5. I hope there is a trading partner available if all three are gone. I don't want to do is tie a bunch of money up in a running back. Its been proven that you do not need an elite talent to be successful at the RB position. Green Bay picked up thier leading rusher off a pratice squad this year. TJ will be good with a line to run behind and Leon is a nice 3rd down change of pace guy. This is not a high priority position IMO.
Round 1: Gholston or trade down. Round 2: RT. There are going to be a few very good RTs in the early 2nd round. Pick one up, shift Woody over to RG and keep Moore as back-up/depth. I can understand wanting a play maker in McFadden, but I don't agree with this statement at all. Chatman is the only JAG. Jones is a very good back, he broke 1000 yards last year playing behind a shit Oline. With a rebuilt/upgraded Oline he will only be better. Washington is far from a JAG. He is a play maker in his own right. He broke out some serious heartpumping runs last year, not to mention his STs play. Calling Washingtion and Jones JAG players just to support your McFadden manlove is a little much.
As somebody else has pointed out, trading down is just a fantasy of people on this forum. It just doesn't happen anymore at number 6. Only one team has traded into the top 5 since 2001 and guess who that was? And the player they traded for to get that pick? Robertson, a bust. That's why talking about it and actually being able to do it are two far different things. Another example. Look at what we had to give up last year just to move up to 14 and that pick has 500 less points value that number 6.
Bingo! And this is exactly the same conversation we were having a couple years ago about Reggie Bush. That was why I brought him up. Not a bust, but not elite either. Thanks, but no thanks. If we can't trade down, take either a WR or a defensive playmaker. Whatever the highest on our board warrants at that point in time.
In case you guys haven't noticed, this team is being assembled with a bunch of good but not young players. In other words it's being built to win now or a year from now. The two best players in the draft to make that happen are Long or McFadden. One gives you a dynamite defense and the other gives you a very good offense. I am sure that we have our eyes on one of those two. Whether we can get either is another story.
I kind of screwed the pooch with my "Get McFadden at almost all costs" conversations a few months ago. I have to admit, I've kind of changed my tune on that a bit. I think we will be in a good position to trade down if McFadden falls to us at #6. However, if we do not get any willing trading partners and it's between Gholston and McFadden, I'm leaning towards McFadden. I would really like to trade down and get Groves and Flacco with Dallas' two 1st round draft picks and pick up a few mid round picks as well.
This is pretty much how I feel and if Ghoulston is available, I think it is ultimately who we will take. I could live with Mcfadden though. Meaning, I am not going to feel sick if we end up with him, however, there is a legitimate risk with McFadden. If Ghoulston is gone and depending if there is anyone else we covet, we could end up trading down if McFadden is available at #6. Part of me would want to try DM, but part of me will understand that the Jets would have traded down for very good reason.
I disagree and it has nothing to do with my "manlove" for McFadden. To be honest I dont even know what that means. I kind of agree with your thoughts on Washington, he is a playmaker and good in his role of 3rd down back. Jones and Chatman are JAGs though, Jones has been nothing more than an average RB his whole career outside of two good years with the Bears. 1000 yards does not impress me at all, even with the crappy line in front of him last year. He is also getting up there in RB years and is just not good enough to pass on a talent like McFadden for. The O is in dire need of a playmaker like McFadden, he is the type of player the Jets have never had. He is thought of as the best player in the entire draft, if he is available at 6 I have a hard time passing on him because we already have 3 average Rbs on the roster. It doesn't make any sense.
Just keep in mind that there is a legitimate risk in Gholston as well. IMO he is a bigger risk than McFadden, just based on football ability.
Possibly the dumbest post ever. Don't compare a guy who has never played a live NFL snap to a guy who is arguably the best to ever play the position.
Yeah, we'll see. Go make Gholston Dick Butkus/Lawrence Taylor/Joe Klecko. But I appreciate a genius like yourself feeling a dumb post was just made. Keep up the good work.