I disagree. If our plans are to go with Clemens and stretch the field, a playmaking WR is one of the key pieces we are missing. We've already built up the OL, addressed DL to the point where the needs aren't as glaring, so CB or WR is the way to go- it's anything but a luxary. Think about our WR corps right now, and especially consider the fact that there are really no other quality FA's available. 1) Coles- aging, injury prone and bitching about his contract- we can only guess as to how much time he has here. 2) Cotchery- may become a #1 at some point, though he's not there yet. Even as a #1, without breakaway speed he's not the "gamechanger" you look for in your #1. 3) Smith- failed experiment thus far. Would not be a #3 receiver on any other team. Hoping that his play improves dramatically this year. 4) Stuckey- never got to see what he could offer the team 5) Wright- ST ace who saw action last year, not a starter. Do you see what I'm getting at? When you say WR and Threat in the same sentence, it's never followed by the word "Jets." I don't see WR as a luxary pick at all. That being said, it might be wise to pick WR a little lower in the first (trade down a few spots perhaps) and pick there. Either way, CB or WR would suit me fine as we're pretty thin and inexperienced in both areas. Whoever the CS had graded higher between the 2 positions should be our guy.
Drafting a WR is as big of a need as any, it is by no means a luxury pick. In fact I think it is a much bigger need than a CB opposite of Revis. We have noone that can be counted on if Coles or Cotchery were to get hurt, see last year as an example. Coles is getting up there and is unhappy, it would be wise to get his replacement now. Besides this team desperately needs offensive playmakers.
I have trouble buying that we go WR at 6, thats theres a WR worth taking at 6, and that if we want to we can just trade down.
Is everyone really that sold on Damien Woody? If anything, he would probably represent excellent depth at all OL positions except LT. Think about it. If Gholston and McFadden (eventhough I'm not a proponent for picking him at 6th) are gone, then a player we should be looking at is Clady. He has the size and agility to plat both LT and RT. Many draft analyst prject him to have a much higher ceiling than Jake Long. Drafting Clady puts in play many very interesting possibilities not just in adding depth but also in reconfiguring a versatile Offensive Line. It puts Woody in a position to challenge for two spots (RG and RT). Don't get me wrong. I think that Moore and Mangold were the two steadiest players on the line last year. But giving Moore some competition in the form of D. Woody wouldn't hurt and if anything, it may just further elevate his game. If Woody was to ever win out at RG, we'll have a line of ALL first round picks. Having Clady at RT directly adds depth at LT as well. If Brick goes down, shift Clady to LT, Woody to RT and put Moore back at RG. If Brick is still not meeting expectations in year 4, Clady is there to challenge him for the LT spot. Going into the season, we can afford to carry fewer Offesive Linemen because of Woody's versatility. But this can only happen if he is not pencilled in at RT. Having a starting OL composed of Brick-Faneca-Mangold-Moore/Woody-Clady would be an imposing unit with an excellent balance of youth and experience unlike we've ever seen before with the Jets. So you still want to quibble about CB's or WR's? Think about it.....IF GHOLSTON AND MCFADDEN ARE GONE, CLADY IS OUR MAN.
Clady would be the worst possible pick for us. He seems better suited to playing LT on the next level and is too similar to DBrick. Besides you just dont spend top ten money on a RT, especially considering how much money we already have spent on the OL. I do think an OL should be taken in this draft, not the first round though.
C'mon......Sweed is comparable to Andre Johnson? Andre Johnson is a more athletic and faster version of T.O. Sweed is more along the line of Mike Williams and Dwayne Jarrett. If Gholston ( we won't pick him anyway) and McFadden are gone, then either Chris Long or Matt Ryan will be available. Most likely Ryan, and the Jets will probably go with him, assuming they don't trade down.
If McFadden and Gholston are gone, no one will want to trade up with us. If Chris Long is available we will take him. If not we will take the best cornerback available. All this talk about a QB or a wide receiver is nonsense. We have pressing needs for a pass rusher and a cornerback. A wide receiver isnt a pressing need. We're pretty good with Cotchery, Coles, Stuckey and Leon Washington. A lineman also isnt a pressing need since we have Woody at RT. And a QB isnt a pressing need since Tannenbaum liked Clemens enough to draft him in Round 2 of 06.
Just thinking - if Ghoulston and McFadden are gone when our number 6 is called; I really think it will be nothing short of a Jets mini-disaster. The only reason is that virtually anyone else taken, you would be overpaying for. Sweed is great, but I think he is more of a 9 thru 15 pick. I just don't see what anyone would want to trade up for unless Sedric Ellis or even a Glenn Dorsey were available and some team really wanted him.
You realize Leon is not a Wr, right? I seriously can't believe that anyone that watched the Jets last year and has followed this offseason with Coles could think that WR is not a huge need..
I like tough running RBs with a lot of heart like TJ and Chatman. We need to go with a great pass rusher (Gholston) or the CB from Troy if the CS thinks he is the no. 1 CB (like Revis). We can get speed later on in the draft at WR.
Hawkins, Royal, Hardy if he falls, Jordy Nelson, Andre Caldwell-- all these guys we can get in rd 2. And they can contributed right away.
Quote: "...If Gholston and McFadden (eventhough I'm not a proponent for picking him at 6th) are gone, then a player we should be looking at is Clady. He has the size and agility to plat both LT and RT. Many draft analyst prject him to have a much higher ceiling than Jake Long. Drafting Clady puts in play many very interesting possibilities not just in adding depth but also in reconfiguring a versatile Offensive Line. It puts Woody in a position to challenge for two spots (RG and RT)..." Well, Clady's private work out was attended by the Raiders (who pick ahead of us I think), so we may be in the same boat with him as with McFadden, et al. I don't want McFadden at No. 6 anyway, because I don't think his running is that resilient, though he can fly if nobody knocks him down with a single blow.
If Gholston and McFadden are both gone, and assuming both Long's are gone as well, my choices would be: 1. Trade Down to a team wanting Ryan or, more likely, Dorsey 2. Rodgers-Cromartie CB 3. McKelvin CB They would both fill a very big need and there isn't any other players worth the 6th overall pick, who would fill a need like they would while not overreaching. The Jets need a big WR but they'd be severely reaching at 6 for one, when the position is deep and they'll likely have a chance to draft a good one with their 2nd rd pick.
Sweed is too slow for the NFL. Let's get somebody that can get some separation and outrun the safeties!
That's the conventional thinking when it comes to getting a high-priced RT. What should be said is that this particular RT is really an LT-in-waiting. Why does it make sense to put the money in WR's, CB's and RB's for the 6th pick and not in a LT-in-waiting RT? Don't WR's, CD's and RB's have a shorter shelf life than OLinemen? To ensure the strengthening of one of the team's foundation (Offensive Line) and put it in good shape for the next decade, isn't that a more compelling reason to pick-one Clady than either an RB, WR of a CB?
We have already put a ton of money into the OL, spending more big money for a guy that doesnt even fit this team would be a disaster.
I sympathize with you, Man2man, but the CB from Troy is fast and a ball hawk. It's almost better than adding a new pass rusher to have Revis well complemented on the other side. Think of having two fast ball hawking CBs -- the safeties will have a field day, knocking heads, blitzing down the throat of hapless QBs, and flashing in for a pick. We can get WRs aplenty in the second round, and the big tough guy from Nebraska (Nicks?) will be available later on too.
It would be awesome on paper to have such a CB tandem. But if we were to look at other references in the league, I would take 2 or 3 of the strongest OL units over Denvers CB tandem of Bailey and Bly. I'm just not sure how much of an overall impact teaming Revis with another quality CB would have versus an OL unit (starters and reserves) that has the potential to be the best in the league. But you do have a valid point. The safeties would definitely be knocking noggins if we had a CB tandem that strong.
It's a good point to bring up - if McFadden is gone (can't count out a team trading up to get him), I think WR would be a good position to address...
