Guys - the moving Robertson to DE argument has to stop. Look up other 3-4 DEs like Seymour, Warren, Olshanksy, even our own Ellis and Coleman. They are all AT LEAST 6'5'', more are 6'6''. Robertson is 6'1''. With his cap number, putting him as a DE 4 inches smaller than the league norm isn't going to benefit this team. In the end, moving him from one mis-mathced position to another isn't going to help matters. A 3 & 5th like Stoud, Jenkins, and the 1st Shaun Rogers trade should be sought.
yea i thought of this too, drob trying to take on a ot could be hard for him, but if he learns good technique and could use his strength and explosiveness to collapse the pocket it could work, and work well
Well... Thats STUPID... This is not basketball, it doesnt matter how tall you are to make a tackle.... But if we could get a 3rd and a 5th for Robertson, I would be excited... That means we really didnt give up ANYTHING but $$$ to get Jenkins, but I would rather get a 2nd round pick for Robertson and say F the extra 5th round pick and have two 2nd round picks
drob is younger and has more to offer than the others who were traded i would look for more than what the other teams received... we have the cap to hold on to him if we have too...and it doesnt hurt to have an extra big body who can play both positions on the line the FO has said that he is capable of playing DE and NT in previous years someone will get desperate and give us a better deal...but i wouldnt move him just to move him right now
I think a 2nd a a 6th would be GREAT for the Jets... We could draft a position of need with the 6th pick in the 1st and draft Gholston, with the 5th pick in the 2nd round we could draft a top CB or even 3-4 end.... Then with the 2nd round pick we get for Robertson, we could draft another skill position like...A pure Runningback, Leon is nice, but he's not an every down back... And this draft is DEEP at RB. I dont know, but I do know that if we can get a 2nd round for Robertson, we have ALOT of options
No its stupid to think that measurables like height and weight don't matter for any position. Robertson is absolutely too short to play 3-4 DE...not because he can't reach a basketball hoop, but because his arms are too short to get any leverage around a 6'6 OT. If you've seen Robertson you would know that he has stumpy arms regardless of height and he is only 6'1. I would wish him luck getting around an OT who is man handling him.
I dont approve of dog fighting, im not Vick but.... You know why Pit Bulls are the best fighting dogs? Because they are low 2 the ground, they have great leverage and a strong bite....Put a Pit against a rot and watch what happens to the Rott's neck
i dont think he will try to get around ot's he will try to go through them, think of a ball of muscle coming at you for a whole game, you will wear down and not be able to contain him, he is not ganna someone you can block with your arms, u need your whole body, this will tire ot's very quickly
Yes this is a brilliant idea. I'm guessing the position of 3-4 DE has been needing this kind of change for a while. Every team in the league just hasn't caught on yet. They are still under the impression that being able to have moves other than bullrushing is useful for DEs...you should prolly call all the 3-4 Gms...they'd love to hear this ground breaking idea.
3-4 Defensive ends primary job is not to get to the quarterback. They are supposed to occupy space so that the linebackers can make plays. Their first responsibility is to protect two gaps. So instead of trying to get to the QB as soon as the ball is hiked they are supposed to be in a position to cover both gaps. Once they are able to diagnose that it is not a running play they can go after the qb. It's a very difficult position since most players are taught to just go after the qb as hard as possible.
robertson just like vilma does not fit the defensive the scheme the jets run they should just trade him if marcus stroud a guy with a chronic ankle can get a 3rd and a fifth then the robertson healthy should nab the jets at least that much
D-Rob's arms are short also to play DE. He is just not suited to the position. If this was year 1 of the scheme you could try him there and see if he worked out despite his shortcomings, in year 3 you let him go unless you are playing a 4-3 next year.
Elvis Dumervil from Denver... And not to mention the possibilities if we go to a 4-3 by surprise and he plays the 3 technique on that particular play.
I realize that. And Dumervil doesn't bullrush like D-Rob who's also pretty nimble for a big guy. If him and Jenkins are commanding double-teams wouldn't that cause problems for the opposing offensive lines???
