OK, how about a good old fashioned debate? Mr. Electric called me out. He's got a very compelling argument. Here's the original post: ME: Yeah, the way it works for me is a thousand yards equals a hundred tackles, touchdowns equal sacks. So a hundred tackle season with ten sacks equals a thousand yard season with 10 touchdowns. It's loose, but it's apples and oranges, ya know? It's a good argument. But remember, Donald Driver had an OFF year. He normally pulls in many more TD's. Also, the defense adjusted to double team Driver alot, opening up his partner Greg Jennings to haul in the TD's. Much the same way that Michael Strahan will open up Osi Umenyiora for sacks. Here are a couple stats that might back up my argument: TD's in a season, Randy Moss: 23 Sacks in a season, Strahan: 22.5 TD's in a career, Jerry: 197 Sacks in a career, Bruce Smith: 200 Awfully similar.
what you have just said, is the most insanely idiotic thing I have ever heard. At no point, in your rambling incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points and may God have mercy on your soul.
no it doesn?t a Sack?s a Sack, a TD?s a TD. 10 RY aren?t a Tackle either, so what is this thread about. Defense is Defense, Offense is Offense.
Player comparison based on statistical analysis. I said Jonathan Vilma lines up fairly equal with Roy Williams of the Lions. It's an abstract concept, people. Don't gimme the "RAARGH, me brain hurt!" responses.
I try. Why stop there though? How about deciding that a TD pass is the equivalent of a homerun? or 10 rushing yards = 1.2 rbi?
Why didn?t you say that when i asked what your question is? I?d say no. Williams is healthy, his value is higher.
Illigitimi non carborundum, bro. That's a decent rule of thumb as long as you don't get carried away. And I do believe healthy Vilma=Roy Boy either way.
Awesome, good question, now you're getting it. I would argue that a receiving touchdown has LESS value than a home run (in a statistical sense) because while a slugger only has roughly 3 or 4 opportunities per game to hit a home run (if he's pitched to) a wide receiver will likely have more than 3 or 4 opportunities to score a TD. Also, a home run is a personal accomplishment, independent of team involvement. The receiving touchdown is a shared statistic between QB and WR, to say nothing of the contribution of the other 9 teammates on any given TD catch.
haha yes!! you are my hero lol....i was thinkin the same thing when i read it...thats my senior quote
OK, great debate, guys. Let me sum up. A receiving touchdown is, in fact, NOT a statistical equivalent to a sack for the following reasons: 1) "Fucking" 2) John DiGiorgio is an asshole. 3) Billy Madison is funny! Thank you, gentlemen. You're all correct, I am an idiot. I now see the flaws of my argument. Thank you for the education.
I actually like this comparison a lot..... It can be argued that WRs and passrushers are the biggest big play threats on their respective sides of the ball- much in the same way that RBs and MLBs are the most common sources of consistent production (which is where your tackles:yards ratio comes into play). The numbers seem to make the argument for you. Fans like scoring more than defense, so a comparison like this is always going to spark opposition- but I think a sack can be roughly equated to a TD.... Consider this: Most Touchdowns, Season 70 Miami, 1984 67 St. Louis, 2000 66 Houston, 1961 Most Sacks, Season 72 Chicago, 1984 71 Minnesota, 1989 70 Chicago, 1987
