Schottenheimer, stays or goes?

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Should Schottenheimer stay or go?

  1. BS stays

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  2. BS goes

    21 vote(s)
    20.2%
  1. supersonic

    supersonic Well-Known Member

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    In my mind Schotty goes. He has been horrible this year. Last year when he was a novelty he did some nifty things to help the offense. Now that everyone knows his act, he has done very little to adjust.

    His handling of CP has been just as bad. The fact that he refuses to let CP throw the ball deep is pure nonsense. He limits the field with this dink/dunk. Has made very little effort to play to CP strengths like play action, and timing/anticipation plays/routes. The over use of the out route is so well known that even defensive linemen can jump those routes.

    Finally, what OC needs a special running game coach?? That is like a DC needing a 'stop the run' coach. Buh Bye Shotty.
     
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  2. FITM

    FITM 2006 TGG.com Best Photoshop Artist Award Winner

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    My guess is that he would have already been fired by now. I wish he would go though.
     
  3. The Dark Knight

    The Dark Knight Well-Known Member

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    Laveranues Coles and Jerricho Cotchery are good recievers.
     
  4. IIMeanDeanII

    IIMeanDeanII Well-Known Member

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    You honestly believe that teams have "just" caught on to his act? That is the reason the offense was terrible?

    Surely it has nothing to do with the lack of talent, or having one of the worst O-Lines I have seen, in a very long time. Only God would've had the ability to make that offensive unit dominate last season. Your assessment is unfair in my opinion.

    They may have went deep more with CP if he did not need a full running start, just to get the ball downfield more then 30 yards. CP often times reminded me of Happy Gilmore, only the football version of it.

    I wouldn't want him to be throwing long balls on my team either. He gets picked off everygame throwing simple 5-10 yard lobs, why would It be a different scenario with him trying to throw deep? The only time it works is when you limited those throws with CP. Defense's knew he couldn't do it any given play, so catching the defense offguard made it manageable once or twice a game. Only way.

    I was under the impression that Callahan was the Ast. Coach? I would imagine they brought him in for the experience value, not because Schotty is a bad OC.

    Call me crazy..
     
  5. Jetzz

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    You so crazy....



    :breakdance:
     
  6. winstonbiggs

    winstonbiggs 2008/2009 TGG Bill Parcells "Most Respected" Award

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    I thought our O was terribly predictable on top of which we ran the play clock to 1 every single play tipping the D when to attack which didn't help our already over matched OL. I think our O was not only predictable but it had built in tells for the D to key on. He isn't ready yet.
     
  7. nevbeats319

    nevbeats319 Well-Known Member

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    one more chance
     
  8. IIMeanDeanII

    IIMeanDeanII Well-Known Member

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    What do you expect an OC to do with an offense, that overall, has no means of being creative due to talent in about every facet of our offense? You cant expect for Schotty to look outside of the box like other teams in the league, when we dont have the man power to do so. If your talent gap is simplified, then it makes sense that you would need to use a simple offense to suffice atleast "some" production from what he was given.

    All I am saying is, I dont think it is fair to be a critic on this issue with BS, just yet. Give him some tools to work with, and then see what he can make out of it. If he gets the proper talent to be creative with his offense, and our offense is still simple and lack luster, I will be the first one to cast the stone.

    Until then, I gotta think he can be really good for our offense, based off the first season when we had a better OL. The schemes we had were a lot more creative, and not so predictable, IMO. Only because he actually had a decent line to work with, and that is what I base my theory off of.
     
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  9. NY Vilmaniac

    NY Vilmaniac New Member

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    our offense wasnt good enough this season to really expect anything

    keep him on the staff for next year, let him work with clemens and see if he can do anything. if not then we can talk
     
  10. winstonbiggs

    winstonbiggs 2008/2009 TGG Bill Parcells "Most Respected" Award

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    The talent stinks but having tendencies on display week after week to key the D is unforgivable.
     
  11. joeyg94

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    Callahan Is Going To Have His Say This Year With The Offense Lets See How Much We Upgrade The Line On Both Sides Of The Ball And I Think Everything Will Be Better I Hope
     
  12. glenn212

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    Not even a question..Shotty stays..a little upgrade on the O-Line and a burner to the outside and a pass rusher and the JETS are right back in the money..The Doom and Gloom Crew or we can call them DGC needs to calm down..Eric and Mike are smart and will attack the issues we have concerns about diligently and with fiscal responsibility in my estimation..GO JETS.
     
  13. JoeWillie130

    JoeWillie130 Well-Known Member

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    This is the way things are in the NFL. One year your the next great thing and a top coaching candidate the next your not and your on the chopping block. Anyone who gives the QB a pass because of the offense has to do the same for the OC. It's impossible for the plays the OC runs to work properly with a weak O-line and it also limits the type of plays you can run when you know you have to get trhe ball out quickly.

    When we had a solid o-line last year shotty was doing some good things. I say keep him. He will be motivated big time to fix things this year.
     
  14. jdon

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    There is no question that the design of the running game needs to change. This handoff to a back 8 yards deep engendered far too many negative plays. Too predictable. A very good point too about letting the clock run down to one on every play. A D-Lineman's delight.
     
  15. glenn212

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    Maybe we should run a Wing T offense.
     
  16. JetsLookingforDWare

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    Exactly.

    Seriously...WTF is the point of fans wanting to throw away the 2 year old coaching staff because ONE of their 2 seasons was bad? So we can hire someone else who has to do the exact same job these guys are doing anyway?
     
  17. FITM

    FITM 2006 TGG.com Best Photoshop Artist Award Winner

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    One of their 2 seasons were bad?

    Schottenheimer has been bad for both seasons. The guy makes some of the dumbest play calls I have ever seen.
     
  18. LI JET FAN

    LI JET FAN New Member

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    Changing OC's every year or two won't get you to the SB. The Jets offense was hampered this year by poor blocking and the fact that they had 0
    weapons in terms of scaring defenses. A playmaker be it WR,RB or TE is a must this off season. Give Schotty a game breaker and QB with solid protection and then evaluate him on his play calling.
     
  19. JetsLookingforDWare

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    1. Yes, one of the two seasons was bad. 10-6 with that squad was an amazing coaching job. 4-12 sucked, but I didn't expect to overachieve for 2 years anyway.

    2. I guessing thats why he's been talked about as HC material in both his offseasons as an assistant....because he's sucked. Doesn't have anything to do with a crap O-line or having to use gadget plays to move the ball...it's on him.
     
  20. supersonic

    supersonic Well-Known Member

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    You are making the assumption that all OCs are created equal. Obviously, the idea is not to bring in someone doing the same thing.
     

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