He has really played well the past few weeks. I'm not sure what the Jet's have designed to get him in more one on one matchups but it has worked. If he continues to play well the Jet's wll have to make a difficult decision. The FA market isn't loaded with top talent and Dewayne has a $12 million cap number. I would probably tradw him but he is a very talented player.
I believe the coaching has been horrific on both the DL & OL. It’s not the assistant coaching that should take the hit. Rather it’s the scheme of the head coach that is the problem. From the onset Mangini has insisted on implementing the 3-4 defenses and the personnel are better suited for the 4-3. With that said, several defensive people have to be traded. D-Rob is a terrific 4-3 tackle and is just ok in the 3-4. The same is true with Vilma. These two players should be traded along with Pennington. Hopefully, by trading these guys we will be able to build a better defense. I don’t want anyone to misunderstand; each of the above named players in the right scheme will play extremely well. There just not a fit for the Mangini system. :jets:
I agree, I would like to see them try this. I think it could work, only problem is actually finding a giant run stuffing NT. Maybe there will be one available in the draft.
Agreed , Move D-Rob to the End position and get a big tough nose tackle yea D-Rob is a lil too short but he has the perfect body size for a 3-4 end and can cause alot of havoc but this only can be taking into action if we can actually get a 3-4 NT.
I will be sick if even entertain thinking about trading D Rob. The guy might not have been a number 4 draft pick but he consistantly plays hard even when out of position, we all knew Nose tackle was a big ask but if we can pick up a Fanicka type Nose and get him on the outside we could have a real front D line for a change.
I'm with your ScotlandJet.... Sure, people may be upset that we gave up so many picks to get Robertson, but that shouldn't take away from the fact that he is an immensely talented and incredibly hardworking player.... He is NOT the kind of player who you can just get rid of without getting shafted
For $12 million, it's time to say goodbye and get what we can. The D-slob years have passed. He'll go on to star in KC.
D-Rob is making an excellent push to enhance his trade value this offseason. NFC Teams that would love to have a 4-3 DT of his quality: Washington Minnesota New Orleans Carolina Seattle I left out the deadenders who probably wouldn't look to invest in a 27 year old DT at this point, but St Louis and Atlanta could also use his services. Washington and Seattle are both teams with whom the Jets have worked cooperatively in the recent past. I wouldn't be very surprised to see D-Rob go to one of them. The market for D-Rob would be very strong if the Jets put him up for trade in the offseason. He'd bring a 3rd rounder or better and might bring as high as a late first in a competitive auction for his rights.
From a purely football standpoint, and as a team with a decent amount of caproom, what about letting Robertson move on and have a good career elsewhere appeals to you?
From a purely football standpoint, he will cost way too much to keep on a D which he doesn't fit well. If we can get a pick for him and have all that money to spend, it makes plugging our holes that much easier. I'd rather have extra picks to use and money to spend on the guys that Mr. Genius wants so we can dominate, not just compete.
Playing end with a bigger body in the middle, would do far more than a trade. when He gets singled up, he eats up the opposition. Get someone inside to take up 2 bodies every down, and then you have teams needing to block 2 guys with four.....factor in Coleman on the other end, and your line is pretty stout...
He may well be just as bad a fit at 3-4 DE as he is in the middle. He's short to play the position and we still have no idea if he'll do what a 3-4 DE needs to do on rush downs, which is to tie up the tackle. I'm not saying he'd be a failure at 3-4 DE, but his physical attributes and play style are no more suited for the position than they have been for NT, and we know how that has worked out. 3-4 DE job description: On rushing downs the 3-4 DE needs to maintain their lane and tie up the tackle on their side so he cannot get to the second level. They need to be able to pinch effectively, keeping the blockers on the line inside of them so that the outside linebacker and cornerback can control the flats. On passing downs they need to be able to get penetration and to get their hands up to restrict the lanes the QB has available as the edge rushers close in. Height and long arms are both valuable in fulfilling this role. D-Rob is 6'1" with average arm length. I don't necessarily see him being as effective outside as we think he might be given those attributes. Given that he has real value when he is slotted correctly in a 4-3 I don't see why the Jets should continue to try to make him fit in a scheme that he's not suited for. This is one of those "if it quacks like a duck it's a duck" scenarios.
I'm really torn on what to do w/ D rob. The guy has really gotten a bad rap from alot of fans since he got drafted and truthfully has been very good in several games. W/ that said, he just isn't a good fit at 3-4 NT, physically. There are times when he gets one on one match-ups at the spot, and he can be dominant...but other times, when facing multiple blockers, he gets blown off the ball and gets the LB's killed( A no- no in this scheme). I actually believe he WOULD be a good fit at 3-4 DE. It is true that he does not have the ideal size or height for the position, but he does have good bulk and would make up for alot of the size issues w/ his rare quickness and power off the snap. He'd be getting alot more one on one type match ups w/ taller Ot's whom he'd be able to get good leverage on. The few times he's been at the spot he's looked very good. W/ that said, this needs to be researched more. Place Pouha at NT and let D rob play in front of Coleman for the rest of the year. if he's successful, think about keeping him around long term...if he's not....lets get him over to a team that plays the 4-3..where he has real value.
One of the things that gets missed in the D-Rob at NT argument is that he could have been more effective at it, even given his physical limitations, than he has been. It's possible that Mangini was waiting for him to make an adjustment that never came. People have played NT very successfully at weights approaching his. People have added the 15 pounds needed to be a space-filler. People have sacrificed individual stats for the greater good. It's debatable as to how much fault attaches to the scheme, the coaching and the player.
