That's what I thought too. Like I said, take it for what it's worth. But I believe there is something true to that rumor. At least in the talking stage. And you better believe the Yanks will give up two young guns for a pitcher like Santana.
That's wholesale stupid. Two pitchers with the potential to compete with Santana for Santana. How does that make any sense?
Not to mention Santana is coming off a down year. Is that an anomaly or a portense of things to come? They will never get Chamberlain, with or without Hughes. I can see Hughes, Cano or Cabrerra and a 2nd tier prospect. That would work.
I just heard on WFAN that Rivera is pissed at Steinbrenner for mentioning his age and told his agent to shop him around. He is demanding a 4 year deal....cya Mo.
Compete with Santana for what? The best pitcher in the game? Where do you get that? After a couple of starts. You don't know that those guys will pan out. Either way, I only heard that. If it doesn't happen, then it doesn't happen, if it does I guess you won't be too happy about it.
I do understand why you guys would feel reluctant to make the move. It would be like us giving up Bucholcz, Lester and Pedroia for Santana. I wouldn't really be all that eager to do it. But the Yankees may be thinking more along the lines of right now and maybe they feel Santana is a better option to win right now. Plus, again this is just a rumor passed on to me. It's may never happen, or be way off base. Who knows. Or maybe even incorrect in that it may not be Chamberlain but Ian Kennedy instead. Who knows.
Actually, no I won't get upset. I want Mo back, you all know that, but wtf? He's throwing a hissy fit over Steinbrenner mentioning his age? Come on Mo, grow up a little bit. If he wants to leave, I won't be happy about it, but if this is the reason why, he can shove it up his ass.
Of course I want to win "now", but I also want to win later. Santana is now. Joba and Hughes are a long series of laters. Trading them is the same old story as they were doing for years. Betting the farm on today. It hasn't worked so far, why would it now? For those complaining about signing high-priced FAs, the Yankees problems have been a lot more to do with having no talent coming up than bringing in established talent. I'd love to see the counterargument to this one. Now Hughes and Kennedy I wouldn't be quick to pull the trigger on either, but I would deal with it if that were it. Though it still leaves the rotation weaker overall. And your example is exactly the same situation. So yes, you do understand.
Ahh..actually I could see Kennedy, Hughes and Cabrerra..I've heard that before actually. I also heard they are more interested in Cano then Cabrerra but with Cano those two pitchers would be too much.
Yeah, that's the reason. They have mentioned it about 5 or 6 times already on FAN. Probably, the fact they gave Posada 4 years is part of it too although not being mentioned. I thought that might be a problem when they did it and it was just one of the reasons I was against it. Steinbrenner is on record (again) as having said this last offer is it. 3 years, 45 million. Take it or leave it. Nobody will give him even close to 15 mil a year, much less for more then 3 years. He will find out the hard way too.
Here, the Rivera crap has made the sports pages now. http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/7450914 Posada is part of it. I thought he might be. Well, the hell with him. He is in for a very rude awakening. It pretty much says that in there too.
Hmmm considering in that same time frame your chief rival has 2 WS WINS not apperances sure mock me. Like I said in the other thread you guys have 4 wins in the last 3 years in the playoffs. 4 wins in the last 3 years..... yeah great formula you guys have their. I'll take my Mets and their 6 wins last year as opposed to the embarssing defeats you guys have had since 2004.
yeah dude. the Sox won two world series in the last 4 years. so? what the fuck are we supposed to do? we cant win every year. If the Sox win, good for them. I dont understand how you think the Sox winning somehow comes back as a mark against the yankees. And how profoundly reatarded do you have to be to continue making arguments against the yankee success while citing Met "successes? Embarrassing defeat we had last year? you had the most monumental collapse in September IN BASEBALL HISTORY. youre happy with that? you sound so stupid dude....I know you cant be that stupid so I'll just write this off to the fact that youre pissed the mets didnt sign A-rod like we said before....
I myself would find it impossible to root for Arod. I would rather root for a bunch of 240 hitters with weak arms to do well than Arod. The guy is such a phony. Meet your 2008 New York Yankees......a tax cheat ( Mr. Jeter), a wife cheat (Mr. Arod) and a steroids cheat (Mr. Giambalco).
Wow Joe. You know I like you, but you're really pushing it now. For the past few weeks leading up to ARod returning to the Yankees, you were ALL FOR him being a Met. Would you not have cheered for him then? In terms of your assessments, how about Paul LoDuca? Did you still cheer for him after he was busted? Or is it okay to talk shit now that he's not on the team anymore? And what are you going to say when it becomes public information that Beltran is a juicer? You're being ridiculous, and the stench of sour grapes wafts off every post you're making now. You missed out on the ARod sweepstakes. Minaya had the opportunity to make him a Met. He didn't. You're eventually going to have to deal with that. Better sooner than later, since you're looking at 10 more years of ARod in pinstripes.
It has nothing to do with the Mets not signing Arod, I'm a Mets fan afterall, they'll wait until the contract comes to an end and signhim. That's what they do. I knew they would never even attempt to go after the guy. As far as the Red Sox success, it has everything to do with the failure of the Yankees. Lets see 2004 3-0 lead and yet they win 4 straight against the most dominant baseball dynasty in my lifetime. The Red Sox have built a team, while you guys have done nothing of the sort. They have signed role playing vets, guys that nobody wanted and they've brought up their own kids. Very similar to the mid 90's Yankees. That's the plan for success and you guys wrote it. Somewhere in the early part of the decade you guys got away from it and the Red Sox pounced like a tiger on that model of success. If you compare what the Sox have done recently to what the Yankees did in the mid 90's it's almost an identical plan. They don't have an AS at every position in fact I don't even think Manny is worthy of starting in the AS game anymore. They have some great players mixed in with solid vets and young kids. When you guys decided that you needed a 200 million dollar payroll and took the Wayne Huzienga approach to trying to win a WS that's when you guys began to fail. Trust me I don't wanna see those faggots in Boston win anymore than you do but you have to be honest they followed the mid 90's Yankees approach to winning. If you guys go back to that I'm sure the world will revert back to the way it should, Boston being a distant 2nd or 10th in the sportsworld.
Let's be honest Joe is a nutjob sometimes but I agree with him 100% about Arod being a phony. You're a smart guy Alio, if you honestly believe Arod always with his heart wanted to be a Yankee than I guess your not as smart about this as I thought. The only reason he wanted to be a Yankee is because once he realized nobody was even close to giving him what he wanted he had no choice to come crawling back to the team he knew was willing to give him the most. The guy has shown his true colors and what a fraud he really is. The fact that Yankee fans have accepted this guy back with open arms has shown what frauds most of them are too. It has nothing to do with his heart it has all to do with Cynthia's shopping account.
