What's the point in continuing the debate? It's like talking to a brick wall. Enjoy your postseason 1 and dones
So...just making the playoffs is ok? Plus all the stats you post are all regular season stats. Also I can't believe you consider this year a success because we made the playoffs...honestly I rather have not made the playoffs, then to be disgraced by a Indians team that we swept in the regular season. I don't know when its gonna sink in for you that regular season stats don't mean shit until you show up in the playoffs. A-rod over the years has had many chances to make a big play in the postseason, many chances to put critics (like me yes) to rest....but he hasn't. Yes the whole team was cold, however if you're known to be "the best player in baseball" how come year after year you choke when the "real" pressure is on? Not regular season pressure....Postseason pressure. I don't hate Arod....because I don't know him...I just wish the Yanks didn't sign him...and make it seem like he always wanted to be here. OVERRATED is the word I use....go ahead bash me some more...but until he shows up he'll just be another stat guy in my eyes. We'll just have to wait till October to see who's correct.
Really interesting article on the Arod/Boras relationship now. http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/b...nk_steinbrenners_stance_caught_arod_bo-1.html He was definitely led down a path and almost sued him because of it.
So this pretty much guarantees that we're going to have almost no opportunity to improve this team and the consistency of our lineup. I guess this means we're going to get wiped out by the Angels in the ALDS again.
Are you serious? Or seriously retarded? Do you want me to post his postseason stats from his days in Seattle as well? Will the fact that those numbers fall in line with his regular season stats shut you up? No, of course not, because you want to be right, even though you're dismally wrong. ARod stopped hitting along with everyone else. You know Giambi was a great postseason hitter before the collapse too. Sheffield, Matsui, and Posada as well. Damon had a pretty damn good run while with Boston. All of them stopped hitting after we came within a game of sweeping the Sox. It's ridiculous that we're even still having this argument. I've shown you the numbers. You just refuse to acknowledge that the evidence is contrary to your belief. I agree with the critics that say ARod has failed over the past 3 years. However, I fully disagree with anyone who says ARod is an October choker. The evidence is clearly contrary to that argument. UNLESS you cherry-pick.
You keep bringing up other players. However none of those guys you mention are up for a HUGE contract and are known as "best player in baseball". Giambi was/is juicing....and Sheffield isn't here anymore. We'll see next October keep your stats....
That's not a huge contract. It's barely more then he has been making for the last 7 years. 2.5 million more actually and he was guaranteed to be getting 32 million in '08 and '09 anyway. So you could say it's even less.
Wow I never thought I'd say this but you guys actually got that weasel to come back. I'm sure it's been stated many times but I'm sure Boras told Arod he would get X amount of dollars and nobody was willing to give him X amount of dollars so Arod had no choice but to come crawling back to the Yankees who he knew were stupid enough to give him the most. Good you guys deserve one another, a weasel and a snake. Enjoy that luxary tax and a malcontent in the locker room. So much for we won't negotiate with a guy who opts out, it appears Helnk are just as spinless as Arod.
Of course I'm bringing up other players. That's the entire point. The Yankees' postseason exits are not the doing of Alex Rodriguez. They are a total team (lack of) effort. Blaming one player for underperforming, when no one else is contributing is flat out silly. As much as people would love to believe baseball is an individual sport, it is not. One basketball player can change a game, but even there, a Koby, or a LeBron cannot carry a team on their shoulders to a title. A great QB cannot carry a team to a Super Bowl win, ask Dan Marino. By the same token, no one baseball player can carry a team solely on their own shoulders through a playoff series. If anything, a single baseball player has less ability to carry a team to a title than any other sport. The only exception being a National League pitcher who throws a perfect game, and hits a home run, to win 1-0. Even then, that pitcher can't do it through every required game. Yes, ARod needs to perform better in the postseason. There's no denying that. However, at the same time, he could hit 2 homers a game, play error-free at third, and we could still give up more runs than we score. Would ARod still be a failure in that case? You face the best possible pitching in the postseason. More guys will fail than succeed in October. ARod's career in October has fallen into the downside. To think he will never be able to reverse that is crazy, especially since he did this season. However, if he doesn't get help from the other members of the club, it doesn't matter what he does. You mention that ARod's contract is so far and beyond the players I mentioned. How about Giambi? If you spread his $25M/year over a 10 year contract, that's $250M. That's not too far from what Alex is poised to receive. Have we received that sort of value from him? No. Does he get ripped apart like Alex? No. Yes, I want to win the World Series every year, but I'm not foolish enough to believe that ARod is either the reason we will, or the reason we won't. His contributions, along with at least 9 other guys will. Or, his lack of production, coupled with the lack of production and execution from 9 other guys won't.
:rofl: Wow, the sour grapes just continue to pile up! Maybe you should change your avatar. Wouldn't want to be confused with someone who wants a "weasel" on their team. :rofl:
Ahh..another unhappy Met fan who was hoping to land Arod themselves. For the record, you are probably right about Boras. There is a long article about how Arod almost sued him for how everything was handled. (I posted the link above). As for Steinbrenner, you are totally wrong. He said he wouldn't negotiate with Boras and he didn't. In fact he didn't negotiate with Arod either. He said here is our offer, take it or leave it and Arod took it.
hahaah witout doubt Miano is as easy to read as my 4 year old......do u ever worry about those mets of yours dude?hahhahah
Your entire argument about this year is ridiculous. Do you really think Arod, by himself, should have made up for Wang's 19.08 ERA in two games? I guess if he hit 9 HRs a game (in 4 at bats) he could have done it. I'm sure you think that's what he should have done.
I really have no desire to get involved in the rillo-don-alio-whoever arod argument.....but I must at least say this...A-rod has not been good the last few playoffs no doubt......But clearly that fuckin charlie chan was the biggest reason we lost to cleveland......its simply not even debatable......all you ever hear about is how pitching wins.....aand we all agree on that...baseball fans the world over. But now we're gonna pin it on Arod because he makes a million dollars an hour? no.not buying it. Wang was the ace of the staff and he shit the bed twice in a five game series!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!no team can win in that situation...lets be fair
Actually that wouldn't have worked. Considering there was almost never anyone on base, the only thing he would have managed was to be outscored by a run. And then it would still be his fault we lost. :up:
Oh yeah my Mets that have more playoff wins in one appearance tha you guys do in the last 3 years. Right that franchise..... Funny all these same guys that were bashing Arod and saying how much they don't need him are now pissing themselves because the weasel came crawling back like the bitch he is. Enjoy watching the Sox win another WS because your franchse is stupid. A part of me wants to see you guys win because I have grown to hate Boston with more hatred than I can ever have of the Yankees. You guys resigning the weasel makes it more like they will win another one while you guys cry over what went wrong.
You do know that without Boras in on the negotiations the conract is going to be void because according to the rules unless Arod fires Boras it is illegal for him to negotiate with a team withouthis agent. According to my knowledge Arod hasn't fired Boras.
I do know that. However, do you know that Boras doesn't have to be involved in the negotiations at all? He just can't be precluded if Arod wants him involved. That's exactly what Andruw Jones did 5 or 6 years ago and what Maddux did this year. Both Boras clients btw. He was told after the meeting by Arod to draw up the papers. That's his total involvement and perfectly legal.
