i guess you mean Fran Okam, the DT form Texas. He?s probably a late 1st Rounder, if he doesn?t perform well at the Combine, we may be able to get him with our 2nd rounder
Oh boy, not this again. Remember the World Series thread? I was interested in learning why you were a Rockies and Jets fan. Then some other poster butted in and implied I was a moron because I thought you were a Jets fan. I find it especially funny since you have a photo of a Ford Bronco as your avatar.
Denver's outside linebackers have been awful this year. They could trade for Vilma and play him in the middle. They would move Vilma's college teammate D.J. Williams back outside. Maybe the Jets could get the Broncos 2nd round pick (so long as they still own a 2nd round pick).
i still think vilma and harris will be a nice pair...but if they do get rid of him...hopefully 1st round pick
If it were me, I wouldn't trade Vilma. I think he's a very good inside linebacker miscast in the 3-4. It's not his fault the defensive line cannot get a push. If were part of the Mangini-Tannenbaum brain trust, I would seriously consider drafting Michigan junior wide receiver Mario Manningham (if he makes himself eligible for the draft). Manningham is the big-play receiver the Jets have needed since the Wesley Walker era.
They make plays, but it's rare that the Jets ever stretch the field. Manningham is the vertical WR the Jets need.
Frank Okam is not a 3-4 NT, he has the size for it, but he would need time to learn the position, and a lot of people are questioning his work ethic right now, he has loads of talent but is VERY inconsistent.
How bout Vernon Gholston? Dude's almost as athletic as Vernon Davis, stronger than most DT's and is one of the best pass rushers in the game with 10 sacks. He compares well to Shawn Merriman and can dominate as a 4-3 DE or 3-4 OLB. Many scouts are now considering him a much better prospect (pass rusher at least) than Groves, people just weren't sure if he was gunna declare this year, being a Junior (likely will declare now). I'd say Groves has more experience at the OLB position considering he's playing there now, but Gholston's a freak of nature who is unmatched when it comes to rushing the passer.
But there isnt a NT prospect anywhere close to where we pick. Long is the only guy who is up for debate. If you say dont take McFadden then give me a name of who you want. We would be foolish to take Jake long and have 2 highly paid tackles. Thomas Jones and Leon Washington are not a reason not to take McFAdden. You figure you have 3 more years out of TJ who is an above average back. When your in our shoes you cant pass on BPA for need. Theres also this thing called Free Agency which lets you fill needs
So, basically what you're saying is TIGHT END Vernon Davis is a better linebacker in the 3-4 than Gholston? ...because athleticism means everything.
Yea I remember. I think it is funny because red and 75 have nothing to do with the Denver Broncos. I could understand with a orange 77 or something like that. I figured the avatar was a dead give away.
if you are drafting in the top 5 like we will be, you dont reach to fill a need. you either lose draft value by trading down or for the following draft year, or you take best player available. unless we go o-line again isay we take the stud rb or wr that makes plays. our defensive needs are not in this draft, most of the best defenders dont fit our scheme according to the guru's on this site. all the d-linemen dont play our style or wont fit.
