Vilma question

I hope he gets traded to a good situation with a team that plays a 4-3, and comes back to rip mangina a new vagina every year for the rest of his career.

 

Because we all saw the truth today about what a great player Vilma is. On a great D where he is totally covered up he is a very good player. Harris is just a very good player period.

 

Harris played great today. He is the round peg in the round hole for this defense.

I take nothing away from him.

Unlike typical jets fans who love to hate their players.

Like i said to you the other day, you get what you deserve. A losing team.

 

I definitely think that Vilma could be a playmaker in this defense if we had a Casey Hampton type NT in the middle. Even the best 3-4 ILBs have a big NT in the middle. It is impossible to expect a 240 MLB to go against 330 pound guards on every play for 16 games a year without breaking down. We need to keep Vilma. I say sign Albert Haynesworth. I know he is a face stomper, but that is the only bad thing he has done and he has been a beast this year. The guy is huge and he will allow Vilma to run free. Either that or draft Frank Okam.

 

I get it Vilma was a Cane and Harris played for Michigan. Why don't you root for the Giants Shockey is still pretty good?

 

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SAY, IT AIN'T JOE
JETS' REVOLVING DOOR NEVER TURNED UP ANOTHER NAMATH THROWN AWAY: Mike Vaccaro, who at his first Jets game in 1976 heard fans heckle Joe Namath, points out the team has never had a quarterback nearly as good since.
October 28, 2007 -- THE Jets are sticking with Chad Pennington for at least another week. They are going to send him out to whims of the Meadowlands winds and the fickle swirl of fate, and there is something about that which is especially gratifying, seeing a coach stand loyally by a besieged and embattled player. With the green-tinted world barking for the onset of the Kellen Clemens era, Eric Mangini is holding firm. Good for him. For the most part.

The problem with embracing this philosophy is obvious, though: for another week, the Jets put on hold the holiest quest in New York sports, the search for The Next Joe.

I lay the blame for this directly to the afternoon of Nov. 14, 1976, which happened to be the first Jets game I saw in person. Those of you who are regular readers of this space know there was a defined, definite and unbreakable holy trinity to my rooting interests growing up: Tom Seaver in one corner, Joe Namath in the other, Chris Mullin in the third.

I was 9 years old that day. I wanted to watch Joe play in person before he became an ex-Jet, something everyone seemed to be talking about in those days. He didn't start that day, Richard Todd did, but he came in off the bench and he played well. He recaptured a little of the old Namath magic. He completed seven of 12 passes for 94 yards and a touchdown, and I couldn't have been happier.

Except, even as I was getting my first taste of the Joys of Football Fandom, I was getting my first real dose of the Perils of Jets Fandom, too. All around me, guys were yelling and cursing at Namath. It didn't matter what he did. Soon enough, they started a chant: "We want Todd!" and I remember that my horror at that was only matched by the horror on my father's face when I tried to start a concurrent "We want Joe!" chant in the middle of hundreds of guys with angry dispositions and paper bags filled with liquid courage.

The Jets won that game, beating the soon-to-finish-0-14 Buccaneers 34-0. In refreshing my memory of the details, I came across this classic quote from John McKay, the hyper-quotable coach of those sad-sack Bucs teams: "Namath is still Namath, but I must say that our guys were nice to him. I noticed when they knocked him down, they helped him to his feet. That was gentlemanly. I thought one stood around long enough to get his autograph."

Well, the angry drunks got their wish, and Namath was a Ram the next year, and here it is, almost 31 years later, and guess what. Maybe we shouldn't have been in such a hurry to give Namath the bum's rush out of town. Because the Jets are still waiting for the Next Face of the Franchise, one that can only come in the quarterback position.

Think about it: Since Nov. 14, 1976, the Mets have lost Seaver (but have gained, among others, Doc Gooden, Keith Hernandez and David Wright; the Yankees have lost Reggie Jackson (and replaced him with, among others, Derek Jeter and Alex Rodriguez). The Knicks lost Clyde Frazier and replaced him ultimately with Patrick Ewing. The Giants have been led by three different quarterbacks to three Super Bowls. Even the Nets, who committed the most egregious sin of all 25 days earlier by shipping Julius Erving to the Sixers, have been recompensed with Jason Kidd the past five years.

The Jets? Todd had his moments, many of them heartbreaking. When it was time for the drunks with the paper bags to start chanting for his ouster, they got Ken O'Brien. When it was O'Brien's turn to face the wrath, it was Browning Nagle. Boomer Esiason came, saw, and was conquered. Vinny Testaverde got his one season from the gods, popped his Achilles the next year on opening day, and while he's still marvelous proof that the Fountain of Youth is real, he never did re-approach where he was in 1998. And, ultimately, when it was his time and his turn, the guys with the paper bags in their hands started chanting for Chad Pennington, too.

And here we are. Today is Chad's turn, and his time. Today is when Clemens becomes the darling of the Paper Bag Set, as soon as one of Pennington's ducks gets shot out of the air. Maybe some kid is going to the game today for the first time, and he'll be wearing his No. 10 jersey. I hope not. The kid may be scarred for life; he may even become a sportswriter someday. Poor kid.

 

Good article Jetcane, but has nothing to do with Vilma. haha.

 

No, it's about the fans and karma. Gotta watch yer karma.

 

i would HATE to see vilma traded. If anything, this shows that barton should be benched and that harris should play next to vilma in order to free him up, the initial intention of the draft pick. And even if vilma doesn't work out in the inside, he has enough versatility to be a playmaker at the OLB spot. He is too good in coverage to let go and can be a serious playmaker if given the opportunity which the D-Line nor the coaching staff has done.

 

I was in shock when we traded Namath and thought for sure that he would lead the Rams to a SB. Namath was done and it was the right move to allow the team to move forward. Any comparison to Chad is that Chad is also done, it's not about him or the fans being hard on him, it's just that the skills to compete in the NFL aren't there anymore. It's not his fault just like it wasn't Joe's fault but good franchises don't leave their legacy's in to be booed off the field, they trade them a year to early rather than a year to late.

 

don't worry he'll end up in NE

 

Vilma would not crack the starting lineup in NE....