Thank you Dr. Obvious, AKA Laveranues Coles...

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  1. Scikotic

    Scikotic Banned

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    Read his last few posts, if you thought this last one was BS youre in for a big surprise
     
  2. RDriven3

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    Any reason you took my post so literally? I was referring to how some fans toss you to the scrap heap when you are no longer needed or after you have a few bad games, now you are going to infer that I am talking about CP, when it was just a general comment.
     
  3. IrishSteveZ

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    You're crazy man, the Jets coaching staff is too busy trying to use Brad Smith in "trick plays" and other BS. Let me give you some info, Brad Smith will not be that guy, the Jets should be molding Smith into an NFL WR, instead we are using him as a "trick" player and I for one am getting sick of it.

    And please dont tell me Chansi Stuckey is the answer, I just dont want to hear it.

    And FYI, as someone else stated Coles made the Pro Bowl in Washington, with yes Patrick Ramsey. Where is Ramsey now? Enough said......
     
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  4. JetBlue

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    all fans react the same. every fan base has their sunshiners and darksiders, so I am confident players don't consider fan bases when they consider whether to sign or not because all fan bases are the same. if so, they wouldn't sign with any team, not just the Jets.
     
  5. IrishSteveZ

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    Very true, but you have to be a certain type of person to play sports in New York.
     
  6. FOURTHANDLONG

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    How about this, The same way I told eveybody on this board how Chad would S**K this year is the same way Im telling you right now that once Clemens gets in Cotchery will become our no 1 Receiver. Watch and see. Coles will not be the man on this team and he is not getting any younger. He will go try and get one more payday or go for a chance to get a ring. The Jets s**king and Chad S**king was once bs in April and now it is a reality. I will find you in a few weeks after Clemens gets his feet wet.
     
  7. FOURTHANDLONG

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    Go read my post from April when I told anyone who would listen exactly what would happen to our team this year. Go read my post when everyone was b**tching about not having a Wr two years ago or a T/E and I said we have a good one in Baker and Cotchery and get back to me ok. I get the same crap year after year then I have to see 50 bench pennington or Cotch is the man post after the fact.
     
  8. ukjetsfan

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    I'm 100% with you on this, whatever anybody else says. I think I started to get suspicious when he took that vicious and illegal hit from Zach Thomas and came back with a bandage over his chin to continue playing. I think my suspicion deepened when he started making those outrageous catches of Chad's underthrown moonballs, turning incompletions and maybe interceptions into positive yardage.

    In short, I?m totally suspicious of a player who never shrinks from contact, repeatedly puts his body on the line for the team and takes horrendous punishment every week, only to come back and do it again next week.

    We should cut him right away and start grooming a replacement.
     
  9. FOURTHANDLONG

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    Jerry Rice had to be replaced once upon a time. At no time did I say Coles was not a great player and did not put his body on the line for the team. With that said he still has his own motives at play as a football player and businessman. Did he not leave us once for more money when we had a better team and shot at the Sb than now. When Chad could throw 30 yard passes. Anyone who does not think money and a ring comes into play when a player gets in his 30's is pretty naive.
     
  10. Scikotic

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    The problem and real question is, how many Bench Chad threads have you started, and how many have you contributed to?

    Who hasn't said that Cotchery and Baker are good? Its so obvious you might as well try to pin the tail on the donkey without the blindfold...moronic as it sounds. You're no one special so quit trying to sing your own praises, when half of TGG had it pegged that Baker and Cotchery were going to be good, and that the Jets were going to falter this year...Im sure you were right last season too, no? Get lost....
     
  11. ukjetsfan

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    Jerry Rice played until he was 81 and is not a good example to use. Coles is at the top of his game and is extremely talented. A better quarterback would make him look even better.

    As far as motives - I don't care what a player's motives are. Production on the field is all that matters and Coles is beyond reproach there, given Chad's current poor play. If you feel a productive, brave player should be cut because he has his own motives for playing the game, you'd have to cut a lot of players.
     
  12. FOURTHANDLONG

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    I have never started a thread and I have said bench Chad since last year to anyone who would listen. Go back and look at pre 2006 season threads when everyone was b**tching about not having a second wr to coles! You talk alot of s** so go back it up and see how many people were saying anything about Cotchery and how many people were crying to draft Greg Olsen for T/E! Im stating the facts. There were a few other people who agreed with me. Im far from special but on these facts Im right! If you don't believe me go look it up or shut the f**K UP!
     
  13. FOURTHANDLONG

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    I never said he should be cut. I said we should start looking for someone to take his place. Coles is not 22 anymore. Do you want another aging player with no solution on the team in a year or two? It is better to replace a guy a year to early as opposed to a year to late. We need to address this sooner than later.
     
  14. Scikotic

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    Here are the problems with your arguments..

    1) Why bench Pennington after he had a decent season, and led us to the playoffs? Stupid....

    2) Instead of getting emotional, why don't you call out some of the people that said we should draft Olsen, because I sure didn't, and I'm damn sure most of out level headed posters here didn't either...so go piss on someone else's name.

    3) Cotchery had momentary flashes in the limited time he played under Herm. It makes no sense to look for another WR when you have a 3rd year, 3rd rd. receiver that could potentially be good if given a chance. How many other people called this, yet are here to gloat about it? You got one thng right....pat on the back

    4) As for looking up your posts from pre-2006, your the one with a point to prove, so I suggest you stop acting like a premenstrual girl and find it yourself.

    5) I talk alot of S**...whats shi? You mean I talk alot of shit? I was confused by that.

    whats the point..what are we even arguing about anymore? This used to be about Coles, now its about Cotchery and Baker...how can you expect to prove a point when all you do is go off on tangents?
     
  15. FOURTHANDLONG

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    1. 17 T/D and 16 Int is not a good year. We had a weak Schedule and played
    four teams who were over .500 last year. We lost three of those games. We have a real Schedule this year and the True Chad Pennington has shown his face. This is a fact. It was stupid to think Chad was good last year. I give the benefit of the doubt to all with Green Colored Glasses because I have been guilty myself. Just not with that B*M.
    2. Not important
    3. Cotchery Broke all of Tory Holts Records in College. Every Training Camp since he was drafted every report was saying he was the real deal. Why did we see him two years after the fact? There is not logical excuse with J-Scrub starting. If Herm can admit he made a mistake then what is there to say? Has he ever fessed up to anything his whole time in Ny other than that?
    4. Your the one calling me out so if you have any doubts to the validity of what I say go look it up.
    5. Do you think Coles will still be at the top of his game when we are ready to compete again or just an aging receiver who has to be replaced? Do you believe that he will be here when we are ready to compete for a Championship? If so then let him stay. I will keep him until his contract is up and have his replacement ready to step in. The replacement has to build a rapport with Clemens the way he did with Chad. It might as well start now.
     
  16. Br4d

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    We're missing a key part of the Patriot "plan", the extra draft picks that come from trading down frequently.

    We only had extra picks in 2006 because of the JAbe situation.
     
  17. IrishSteveZ

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    GREAT POST MAN.

    FOURTHANDLONG, just stop it! Your arguments are foolish.

    The above post says it all, just stop please!
     
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    I was foolish in Aug when I posted my arguement's regarding Chad Pennington as well. We will finish this at a later date.
     
  19. FOURTHANDLONG

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    You did Defend Pennington back them as well correct?
     
  20. Scikotic

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    As long as he doesnt defend him now, what does it matter? We made the playoffs last year no? He surpassed what everyone expected of him no?
     

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