Are you for real?! 5 weeks into the second season and they're a mistake... ridiculous. We'd be 0-5 with Jay Fiedler starting next week if we had Herm at the controls right now.
Pennington IS intangibles and look what that has done for him. It got him 1 TD, 3 INTs, and a message board full of Jet fans who want him dropped like a bad habit the first possible second.
They won't be buying Jets gear for the next 100 years. That's how long it took before they started buying Yankees gear. That and 26 championships.
We've had some close games, it's not like 2005. Don't get me wrong I am in no way happy about this season but to say Mangini and Tannenbaum are a mistake is premature. We were supposed to be rebuilding last year remember... it's a process. We need to find out what we have in KC now.
"Tangini" will be with us for the foreseable future folks. Make no mistake, Woody knows that the perception of him being in over his head is still out there in some circles and to pull the plug on Tangini would be an admission of that.
I believe they were. Only time will tell if people, in the end, agree or not. I think I just see it earlier then most do.
chads second interception was pure garbage. i have been a supporter of his until last week, and after that interception today its obvious the argument that chad is a smart qb who wins with his head is worthless now. if im gonna need to watch a qb make dumb headed plays that cost us the game the rest of the year i want that qb to be clemens because at least his mistakes will bring growth to his game and allow for the jets to be a more successful team in the future. and the future is what we are playing for now.
Remember the cross country tour that Tann and Mangini took in the spring of 2006 testing all the top QBs looking for the man to take over for Chad. The man they drafted was Kellen Clemens. It is time for Tann and Mangini to say "Kellen, this is your job". I believe they got the right man in Clemens. They have to let him take over NOW.
Mangini had nothing to lose last year, but with actual expectations, he has shown to be nothing more than a conservative coach who is afraid to lose -- which equates to punting on 4th and inches and playing a QB been unable to drive the ball all season but who at least isn't an unknown. by sticking with the QB who is less of a risk, he is costing the Jets games, both the ones we have played and further games that Clemens is not getting experience for. Mangini is the farthest thing from a Belichik clone, and has shown this year that, as a coach, he is not a difference maker at all. the Jets recent history has been a good year followed by a bad year. all Mangini is doing is following that trend, which isn't any different from Herm's achievements. if the Jets wanted Herm success, they could have kept Herm. Mangini was a bad Coordinator and is proving himself to be a bad coach. the more he tries to protect his job by playing Chad the more he buries himself. I don't think many players are going to buy into his demands when he has a losing season, especially if it is a disasterous season as this is shaping out to be. I wouldn't mind seeing him gone at the end of the year, especially when there are better candidates out there. this team has talent, Mangini just doesn't know how to use it. is it any coincidence that the Pats D was the worst it has been in its SB years under him, and got better when he left?
Our expectations were absolutely NOT too high. I mean come on, this team was a 10-6 playoff last yr. What do fans expect from a 10-6 playoff team? They expect them to improve in the off-season, then come back improved and make a run deeper into the playoffs and get 12+ wins instead of 10. Our expectations were not do high, chad is just horrible.
Great post. The only positive is that maybe we can finally scrap the awful " mangenuis" moniker around here.
The Pats D was at its worst when they had a lot of injuries which they could not overcome. He was picked by Belichick to be his DC. That has to say something. Apparently the DC he picked after Mangini left is doing much better but they don't have all the injuries they had when Mangini was the DC.
Maybe some fans expect that, but those are ones that don't really have much of a clue. It was always much more likely that like most teams that overachieve, they would fall back a bit. The fact is that if you look at teams that win 10 games in a year, they average fewer wins the next year, not more. It's called regression to the mean, and it happens (on average) all of the time. The difference is that Chad has clearly gone downhill this year, so instead of a 7-to-9 win season, the Jets are looking at a 4-to-6 win season at this point.
sure, you can rationalize it that way, but don't you think it is a dubious coincidence that the Pats D was able to overcome injuries when Mangini wasn't the D Coordinator but not able to when Mangini was. so, when you look at the similarities -- injuries -- and then look at the different results by the different coordinators, it is far more likely that Mangini was the difference in the result, not the injuries. that is only exacerbated by the fact that the D once again got better when he left.
