Sorry dude but you're talking out of your ass. Look at the quality of line Brick came in to. Compare that the the quality of line that McNeill came in to. I know that you don't think an O-line can ever be a one man gig, so understand that offensive line dependent on teammate play as much as any other position on a football team. By the way, have you watched Marcus McNeill play the first 2 weeks of the season? Clearly you haven't, because if you had, you'd know he has been shit. I don't know what you're expecting out of Ferguson, but I assume you want him to block every LB and DE he faces on every play in every game. This is impossible. You block from the inside out in most cases, as a guy on the outside has a further way to go to get to the QB. So, if Bender is beat off the snap or blocks the wrong guy, Brick has to block the guy in the B gap, wich often leaves a DE unattended or a DE vs. RB. Sure, he gets beat, I am not going to say he never does, but someone with some common sense and a little less spontaneity in their comments understands that he is better than average and will continue to improve. Analysts I have heard talk about young O-linemen say that you should give them 2 full seasons, and I am prepared to do so. I expect him to be one of the best in a few years, but I am not going to throw him under the bus after 18 weeks. Watch him this week, he'll have a good game against Jason Taylor for the third time in less than 1.5 seasons. Then will you be a believer, or just hate him again if he gives up a sack in Buffalo the week after?
What stinks is that i can't find threads around here from before that draft.... From another board I posted the following spliced together.... "I'm officially OFF the Brick bandwagon and he's the guy I do NOT want at 4 - I'd much rather trade down and spend a lot less on Justice and more picks. I don't see him rated as a can't miss and anything like thepraise we saw for Gallery and Gallery hasn't blown the doors off yet.... Gallery was just a Superhuman, monster. I have a feeling that Brick could be real good but, is somewhat of a project - Hey they ALL are..... And the next few OT's in this draft aren't that far behind him to warrant the extreme difference in salary. I'd MUCH rather trade down or take Mario... I just think Mario will have a HUGE immediate impact on the defense and allow the defense to be so much more than it is at face value allowing them to mix things up a lot more and disguise what they are doing without being so vanilla..... Yeah - Sure - Once you DROP BACK, you can be a little more risky and take a guy like Cutler since you get extra pick(s) plus the salary slot is lower.... It's the complete opposite of some boob trading UP for Robertson and putting the weight of the world on the poor kid's shoulders to become the next best DT. Kiper thinks the JETS MUST go QB or protect the QB with D'Brick but as we all have speculated the JETS could stun all with AJ HAWK. But, it's all about value and it seems like this draft is deep at Tackle and LB - So, while I'd be happy with any of the candidates I'm getting the feeling that we could 'Protect the QB" without spending all that money.... Imagine we could get a deal like Bradway gave for DRob and then grab both an OT and a LB for a lot less money and STILL have another pick out of that deal to go with our others and have the ability to move around the draft and cherry pick players they like.... All we need is some dumbass like Bradway from another team... I'm thinking on draft day if Mario Williams is gone then give it a shot - And I know it doesn't always work - Word was Miami wanted to desperately trade down last year and there were no "Bradway's" around.... Man.. Once you drop back, the world is your oyster... at around the 10 pick Young or Cutler would be much more juicy. For me it's Mario... It's a deep draft for OL - The OL will be addressed...
GreenGuy.... I don't live here 24/7 and I don't post here a ton - Mostly draft stuff and then fly bys... But, you my friend, are a GREAT poster - Keep up the good work. Funny how all the tools bitch when we talk draft "Too Early" cuz it's a "Crapshoot" and then afterwards we can't revisit what we discussed back then... SOME PEOPLE ENJOY THAT - It's a hobby - I love draft talk. Why do people enter threads just to tell other people what not to discuss????????
Nahhhhhh...... There's a lot of people who love to talk draft and play around as armchair GM's.... And plenty of people who have documented decent track records on predicting drafts like me.... All in FUN... Some people love predicting games, some people love trying to predict seasons and some people like to predict talent and drafts.... Lay off and go enjoy what you like, other than telling others what to do.
No let him chime in about topics he knows nothing about. Hey I am all for it. Wonderful, I am so happy you nailed the draft. All those calls you made to the warrooms, what teams were willing to trade up or down, I am curious.
Its too early to call D'brick a bust....he played pretty good last week. Last year played pretty good against Jason Taylor as well.....give the guy a chance pple
There is a problem with your logic. If the intended purpose was to revisit the draft and talk picks, this thread should have been put in the draft forum. Since it was not, then all other topics are allowed to be discussed not just other possible draft moves as you suggest. Topics such as how completely moronic it is to call Brick a bust after 18 games. Follow?
Not only that, but Robertson has been giving us Furgeson levels of suckiness for YEARS longer than D'Brickshaw has! Why is he excused?
Sure - Is there an Ignore function though - I don't read people who like to just complain about the topic.... I don't have a ton of time to spend here so, I kind of look for topics I like and try to be a part of THAT discussion... If I ever look for threads that I DON"T like and then enter those threads just to tell other people they are Morons Please call my wife and have me committed.
Dead on. Nothing more needs to be said. Watch the tape to D'brick on sunday instead of blindly blaming him for the overall OL struggles. He's been our best lineman through 2 games.
There was nothing wrong with the D'Brick pick. If it doesn't work out then it doesn't work out. People equating the pick with the Dewayne Robertson pick are trying to match apples and oranges. 1. The Jets did not trade up to take D'Brick they just let him drop to where he was expected to be taken and then took him. 2. D'Brick was a consensus first round pick at the beginning of his senior year in school. He maintained that standing all through the year with superior performance and was a consensus top 10 pick before the combine. D-Rob was considered to be a probable first DAY pick at the beginning of his junior season. He had a decent but not dominating season and had worked his way up to mid to early 2nd round before the combine. Then something went terribly wrong as he moved from that standing to top 4 draft pick at light speed. Every once in awhile the world goes crazy, why the Jets wound up holding that bag at such a prohibitive price is beyond me. Think about it: the Jets gave up 3 draft picks including 2 first rounders to draft a guy who was considered to be a 2nd round pick when the college season ended. How did this happen to us? 3. D'brick has been a great player in the past. There's always a chance he'll regain that form. D-Rob has never been a great player outside his own head.
OMG...another prognosticator. We should've drafted Warren Sapp over Kyle Brady. We should've drafted Marvin Harrison/Jonathan Odgen over Keyshawn Johnson. We should've drafted Orlando Pace instead of James Farrior. We should've drafted Ed Reed over Bryan Thomas. We should've drafted Kevin Williams instead of Dewayne Robertson. We should've drafted Heath Miller instead of trading out of first round Uggh. I don't mind you bashing D'Brick, but tell me how this team was going to play without a left tackle and a center last season? It's funny how when people revert to past draft's, the player they ALWAYS wanted was a freakin' stud. I agree with an above poster when he said Ngata had questions about his play. He's just answered them better.
