Again, I can understand the conservative playcalling yesterday. Clemens had one week's worth of practice with the 1st team, and they obviously weren't going to try to mix in the entire playbook in that week. They went with basic packages to try to bring him in properly. However, I agree with most of your post. Given the time on the clock, I felt he should have punted in the 2nd quarter. Given the position after the 15 yard penalty on the kickoff, I felt an onside kick attempt was in order. There was questionable playcalling in the redzone, and while we don't deserve to be 1-1 right now, we should at least have been playing into OT. Tough to say that proper decisions would have changed the outcome of the game, since there is no way to predict the course of a game if you change something in the 2nd quarter.
Nah, rajensen would actually post really bad sources for his arguments. But he actually had arguments and not whimsical thread-starting voids of content.
By saying what you posted you & others are saying that well the NYJs are just not the amongst the best which I am sure was not your intention. In any case is really does not matter since in the end to be the best you MUST beat the best
Well I agree with that which is the reason it is time to move past the CP era & begin the KC era since we are going nowhere this year or next for that matter because we have the suckiest O & DLs in the NFL
This blind irrational love for Chad is unbelievable! We are not going to win the Superbowl. It is time for the Clemens era to begin.
Thank you Nostradamus. Whatever would we do without your illuminating prophecies. I have never seen a bigger bunch of quitters in all my life.
Are you in the wrong thread? or is that all you have to say in regards to the Jets? This thread is bashing the HC, cmon get with it, get your Jets bashing threads straight.
:beer: This is a very well stated post. The Pats look like the only thing keeping them from the SB is the Pats. They look like only self destruction is going to stop them. The Ravens have a very good D with one of the best set of DB's in the league. It was troubling how little pressure we provided on a banged up line with a backup QB in there. Yes we are 2-0, but there are positives to be found if you want to. Now if we loose 2 of the next 3 then things start to look ugly for the copaching staff. The Ravens and Pats are top notch teams. The Fins and Bills should be very beatable.
The Hc has to start by making the Hardest Decison of all. Bringing in Clemens. That defense will have to be fixed via the draft and Free agency. The Defensive line is beyond fixing and half of the other players are not suited for the 3-4.
I wouldn't say we have the suckiest OLine in the NFL. There are worse, Houston, Arizona, Miami, Oakland, Giants, just off the top of my head. Mangold and Brick are keepers, the problem is the Oline works as a unit. You have to cover for the guy next to you when he misses his assignment (anyone who knows Oline play understands this, which is why I find all the "Brick is a Bust" talk moronic). So you have 2 guys (2nd year players still learning the 2 most difficult positions on the line, mind you) trying to do the job of 5. Bender is a good, raw, young prospect, a year or 2 form starting. Moore is an excellent BACKUP, but shouldn't be starting. They really need a new starting RG, LG, RT, and one more good backup. So the line is about half way there with alot of young talent, which is good long term. But there are a lot worse Olines in the league. The Dline is another matter. Coleman was a good signing. They need a NT, and Ellis is past is prime. But they are deep, just no one of starting potential really. But once again, there are worse out there. As for Mangini. Last year, everyone was on the Mangini bandwagon, he could do no wrong. Let's all get some perspective here: 1) The Jets are rebuilding in the truest sense of the word. Herm/Bradway left this team severely depleted talentwise. Not only do Magini/Tanny have to find starters, this team needs depth too. The Jets and CS took everyone by surprise last year, but we are still rebuilding. 2) By the signings and drafts it is clear ownership, the FO, and CS are looking long term (not shelling out huge dollars for overpriced free agents). They want to be annual contenders, like Pitt, NE, Denver, Philly, Seattle, and not one hit wonders. This is something I support, and it takes a few years. 3) Mangini is only in his second year. He is learning as well. But the talent and ability is there, just look at the people he has brought in for his CS, the players he gets, the schemes, philosophy, and the way he runs the organization. The guy knows what he is doing, but he is young and still inexperienced. But that is ok, alot of great coaches started out even younger, Cowher and Madden are 2 just off the top of my head. We as fans have to step back, take a breath, and look at the big picture. That is just my opinion though. The Jets as an organization are finally headed in the right direction, for the long term, and I am willing to live with a bump in the road this year.
I'm definitely for giving EM the benefit of the doubt. What other potential coaches out there are realistically going to be interested in/available for the Jets? I say stick with EM for the next two seasons and see what happens. I want to see him make some changes to the O-line and (maybe)the D-line; see if he can adapt and get us a winning season out of the crap tastic start.
There are a lot of hard decisions that Mangini has to make. The defensive personnel is unsuited for his schemes, one or the other has to change. The offense is a mess, running a scheme that requires tight coordinated lineplay out of what is now an undersized group of klutzes. The QB is injury-prone and needs much more out of his teammates on both sides of the ball than he's likely to get. This is not a trivial juncture for the Jets, they have serious questions that will govern the fate of the franchise over the next few seasons and sitting on those decisions instead of making them just delays the inevitable.
Shame on you! If Mccarrebs Catches the pass and then we some how pulled that game out your Thread would be null and void. We would possibly be saying what a genius he was for not puttubg in Chad who was standing the entire game on the side line like a teenager screaming put me in coach put me in!!
I don't know who should take the blame, the HC or OC, but the team we have put on the field, no matter who we were playing, looks nothing like the team that won us 10 games last year. Our offensive is completely predictable, our shifts are weak and don't throw off the defenses. Leon Washington has become invisible, and for no good reason. I suppose it can be attributed to the fact that TJ came on as a feature back, so they don't need all the tricky business, and think they can run him up the middle and succeed. But it's really painful to watch, and everything EM did last year that brought excitement and a "breath of fresh air" appears to have vanished.
Herm Took a talented roster and destroyed it. Mangini is trying to rebuild Herm's destruction and has thus far done a pretty good job regardess of schedule and opponents
That may have been true for the most irrational of fans, but most fans liked Herm until the playoff loss to Pittsburgh. Part of his problem was he pushed the blame to everyone else on his staff. First we couldn't stop the run because of Ted Cottrell. Then the offense sucked because of Hackett. Donnie Henderson replaces Cottrell and we have one good year, then revert back to being awful on defense. Hackett was replaced by a guy who was supposed to take more chances and the offense was just as conservative and predictable as it was under Hackett. I gave Herm so many chances, but I'd had enough in the 2005 Baltimore game when he wouldn't let Bollinger attempt a friggin' pass. Enough was enough. Give Mangini a chance. We lost two games, one to arguably the best team in football and the other to the best defense in football with a QB who made his first start.
This years team looks very much like last years team. People forget that when we played the Pats in September they blew us out opening up a 24 to 0lead before they took their foot off the pedal. We also got our doors blown off by a decent but not great Jacksonville team 41 to 0 in week 5. We lost to two very good football teams and last years team probably gets shut out by the Ravens instead of being right in the game at the end. I think the D showed improvement last week and so did the O. The team is rebuilding and to compare last years team to this one you have to look at more than two games against two outstanding teams. Last years team would have been blown out the first two weeks instead of actually being in the hunt in week 2 against a team that went 13 & 3 last year.
