I never thought we had any chance at the division but the sox aren't half as good as you are giving them credit for or they wouldn't have lost 10 games of a 14 1/2 game lead in the last 4 months. They would have doubled it.
IMHO....I fully expect my beloved Sox to win the division, but in truth, it doesn't mean much. Haven't the last few World Series been won by wild card teams? I don't think St Louis was, but I think several of them have been.
Just more bullshit. A free hit by Boston as usual and no way for the Yankees to get even without a suspension. Happens every single series we play them. The rule has to change. Before you bring up Wang's hitting Youkilis, he didn't hit him at all. Youkilis leaned into it on the swing. Not intentionally but he would have never been hit if he didn't bring his arms around. The rule is just plain insane. Obviously the ump thought Beckett's hit was intentional or there wouldn't have been warnings just like there weren't after Wang's. If he thought it he should have been tossed right there.
Some have. Usually it's not the team with the best record who wins though. Otherwise the Yankees would have won a few more then they have.
If he swung it would have been a strike and he wouldn't have been on base. You are, as usual, wrong. Either way, it doesn't matter, because Wang clearly didn't hit him on purpose. Beckett hit Balco-boy for Chamberlain, not Wang hitting Youkilis. Everyone knew it was coming at some point today. That's why the Yankees just sat there when it happened. They deserved it and they knew it. It's part of the game. At least Beckett didn't go for his head like Chamberlain did.
Yeah, I didn't mean swing. I meant, as I said, bring his arms around which he did. It clearly wouldn't have hit him if he didn't. If Chamberlain was trying to hit Youkilis he would have. Just another ridiculous interpretation of the rules by an umpire that is clueless. It made absolutely no sense that he would be trying to hit him in that situation and even the league knew it which is why the suspension was 2 games and not 5.
First, you DID say swing, and then edited it afterwards. It says swing in the post I quoted. And if the league thought it was unintentional there would have been a ZERO game suspension, not two. They don't just go suspending guys for no reason.
The Yanks deserved it? what about all the years of your pitcher hitting our guys w/ no retaliation? all the pedro beanballs, you guys deserve alot more and you'll get it.
Are you still crying? The Yankees had every opportunity to hit anyone they wanted in retaliation, and apparently every pitcher they've had and their manager have been too gutless to do it. They decided that instead of hitting Ortiz, it was a better idea to give him meatballs he could hit for game winning home runs. So don't complain to me about the big bad Sox hitting your poor meek players. If you're going to be mad at anyone, be mad at the pussies on your pitching staff and in your dugout.
No there wouldn't. That would mean they had to side against the umpire and they would never do that. A 2 game suspension for Chamberlain was the same as a 0 game as he wasn't eligible to pitch again until the third game following that one. And yeah I edited it just as I am editing this one. When I reread it I realized it wasn't saying what I meant to say. I didn't expect you to be lurking around and jump on it as quickly as you did.
Honestly devil, while my fellow Yankees fans go overboard against the Sox with the whole throwing at people thing, they are right with their basic point. The Red Sox have been throwing at the Yankees for years, and have always gotten away with it. And they put the camera on Beckett when he did it yesterday, and he was grinning, knowing damn well he got away with another one. Whether Chamberlain did it on purpose or not is debatable. It's as debatable as Matsuzaka's one on ARod, and Wang's on Youkilis. Either way, it doesn't matter, it happens far too often to be just chance, for either club. If Schilling is smart, he'll hit someone in the top of the first today, to draw the immediate warning. Otherwise, Clemens is going to nail someone, and deservedly so. I know you refer to it as whining, but the fact is, the Sox do dirty shit, at least as dirty as anything ARod's ever done. The difference is, the Sox are viewed as a "blue collar" team, and that's acceptable for them, whereas the Yankees are supposed to be some model of good behavior, so when one of them does something shady, it gets a totally different view.
There have been MANY players ejected that haven't gotten suspensions. And you edit most of your posts for some reason. Usually after you've been called on something ridiculous you "accidentally" said. Just read it over BEFORE posting it and you won't have to.
Hitting Ortiz would piss me off as a Yankees fan. I know the unwritten "rule" is hit the team's best hitter, but I would never call for a hit on Papi. The guy has never been anything but classy, and if the Yankees ever intentionally hit him, I'd condemn the action immediately, regardless of the circumstances. Now plunking Varitek, that I would be on board with. (And I don't mean plunking his head, since head shots are never appropriate, no matter who the player is. Well, maybe Barry Bonds...)
You gusy get the benfit of every doubt, pedro tyring to hit guys int he head, manny "charging" the mound w/ a bat, 3 sox ganging up on 1 yankee and no suspensions then joba throws 2 balls near a Sox player and w/o warning he's ejected. It's a joke an we knew after the Sox threw at a Yankee they'd get warned and not thrown out like joba therefore hurting the yanks by not being able to pitch inside. and the HBP on Youkilis he should never have been awarded 1st as he ducked into it. that ball was high but it was over the plate.
Youkilis clearly wasn't on purpose as the ball was over the plate. He dove into it and shouldn't have been awarded 1st base. By the way, if that was a yankee that did to varitek what Hinske did to posada they'd be suspended. Knocking him over was fine but he threw a dirty elbow to posada's head.
Other than Pedro, I don't know of anyone else the Sox have had that would go after hitters. Pedro is old school in that way, and I have no doubt that a few of the guys he hit were on purpose. Of course Beckett hit Giambalco on purpose. It was in direct retaliation for Chamberlain throwing at Youkilis' head. If he didn't do it, he would have lost a lot of respect in the clubhouse. I don't dispute the intention of that pitch at all. However, if Clemens hits someone, it will NOT be deserved. Beckett did it in retaliation to something a Yankee pitcher started, and everyone in baseball knows it. Clemens hitting someone will be starting something all over again. I don't think there was any way that Wang hitting Youkilis was intentional, but I also don't think Matsuzaka hit Arod on purpose either. He had no reason to, and they don't do that in Japan. Remember, he bowed to him as he went to first base. But of course, Yankee fans got all bent out of shape about it, insisting it was on purpose. Chamberlain's was, as you say, debatable, but there is enough doubt that Beckett had to do it. There is also a HUGE distinction between throwing at someone and throwing at someone's head. The former is part of the game, the latter is dirty. What dirty things have the Sox done? They hit a couple guys. Part of the game. They aren't throwing at people's heads. They aren't throwing elbows like Arod, or slapping people like Arod.
He didn't dive into it. That's Jeter's thing. He started a swing, but checked it very early on. It wasn't even close to a strike though, you're either making it up or just plain wrong about that. And if the Hinske play was dirty, why did no one on the Yankees react? It was a VERY clean play. Even Tim "Yankee" McCarver said so.
I didn't say it was a strike, I said it was high but over the plate. he shouldn't have been awarded 1st base. As for Hinske, bowling over posada was clean but he threw an elbow at his head to top off the play and that was dirty. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
That never happened. Watch it again, it was just on ESPN, they showed it 3 times from two angles. His elbow was across his chest, and hit Posada in the shoulder area, just like it should have. There was nothing remotely dirty about that play.
