Look, on gameday, they were not going to dress T Jones, Washington and Ware. The fact that they did not keep Ware on the 53 shows they are very confident in Jones being ready next week. So if Ware makes it to the PS, then it doesn't matter, because they were not going to dress 3 RBs anyway. So, one of the 7 who do not dress (yes, 7, not 8, because the 3rd QB dresses) would have been Ware, so what's the difference? They took a calculated risk that Ware will slip through waivers and go to the PS. They probably spoke with Ware and he said if he slips through he'll go to the Jets PS (he could go anywhere). That means the only way we lose him is if he goes onto someone's 53.
I agree with every word. They fucked up, plain and simple. I think they're getting too cute. There was no reason at all to cut Ware and keep all those TEs, unless they mean to run a lot of 3 TE sets to compensate for the horrid OL.
And I couldn't disagree more. Look, not everyone can make the team. Is Tutt a 3rd RB? NO, he's a FB. However, Ware is not going to dress in any game even if he was on the 53 unless someone got hurt. Because of that, I don't have a problem with this move because if someone gets hurt, they can activate him from the PS if needed (assuming he gets there). He had a very good preseason, but let's not put him in Canton yet.
Danny Ware looked good but I'd much rather the Jets get Antonio Pittman. I hope they put in a bid for him.
I'm not puuting him in Canton. I simply believe he was an excellent option as a #3 RB. He's familiar with the offense, and had made an excellent case for staying. And no, he wouldn't have dressed. But if we lose either Jones (who could very well have an injury that lingers this season) or Washington, he would be dressed the next week. I think it was more important to keep Ware then 5 TE's. Now, if he makes the practice squad (and I'll be surprised if he does), then I guess it doesn't matter. Still, I don't like the move. Like I said, I think they're just getting a little too cute.
You are right, if Jones/Washington go down, Ware will dress the next week. We agree. With that premise, what's the difference if he's on the practice squad or 53? He'll make it through to the PS. You would have heard about him signing by now if he wouldn't. I don't think it's getting cute. I think it's optimizing their roster, and protecting people they FEEL will be picked up if cut/slid to the PS (if they were even eligible). I think we kept 6 corners because we're shopping 1.
Let's see... the #1 RB missed most of preseason with an injury. He was also at Chicago when the now Dallas AC was also in Chicago, and he's suspended for 5 games in this HGH distribution scandal. That makes Jones a little riskier than most RB's headed into the regular season. This is no time to cut the #3 RB. Not with 5 freakin TE's on the roster. As for saying that since he didnt get signed yet, he won't get signed? Name even ONE cut player that HAS been signed already. I guess every player that got cut yesterday won't sign with another team too? That's just siliness.
Simple bet.. put your money where your mouth is. If Danny Ware is signed and is not on the Jets PS, I don't post here for 2 weeks. If he makes it to the Jets PS, or someone else's PS (meaning he wasn't signed), you don't post for 2 weeks. Have the balls?
I'm not sure why so many people here are up in arms over the cutting of Danny Ware. Sure, he had a few nice runs in preseason games, but he's not a special player. He doesn't have the ability to create something out of nothing. This separates him from most of the starting RBs around the league. Ware is a fringe player. He was not even particularly impressive at Georgia. He started as a freshman, but lost his job due to a fumbling problem. He spent the rest of his collegiate career in a committee with Thomas Brown and Kregg Lumpkin. By the way, redshirt freshman Knowshon Moreno (from New Jersey) looked excellent last night. Of Brown, Ware, Lumpkin, and Moreno it is clear that Moreno is the most talented.
Ware was a RB amongst many at Georgia. Ware is infinatley better than Tutt , WHO was used as a HB in the Philly game???? He had better be on the PS or I will add my name to the ' they screwed up' list. We need one FB on roster , thats it. We have Ryan and Pociask (sp) who did very well at that spot too. ,So what the hell do we need a VERY average (at best ) FB on the roster unless of course they are planning on getting shot of Barnes?
Honestly I don't think it's a big deal at all... Ware looked good but it was mostly against second and third stringers. He seemed very timid as a runner. He really doesn't make any kind of special teams contribution, and if it ever gets to where he has to play, the Jets offense is in huge trouble anyway. The TEs we kept were all better players, are all better special teams contributors, and all have more flexible roles in this offense. Not keeping Danny Ware is the least of our problems.
Well, we are in agreement. As for gustoonarmy- "Ware was a RB amongst many at Georgia." Yes, that's because he didn't stand out. Ware is not infinitely better than Tutt. Tutt is a more versatile player. 40 is the new 30. Is the 3rd string RB now the new backup QB?
The most upset I ever got by a cut was when Leroy Kinard didn't make the team. He was tough runner. If I recall correctly he was in two training camps and may have made it to the final cutdown both times. http://select.nytimes.com/gst/abstr...Reference/Times Topics/People/C/Carroll, Pete
Yes he is. Ware is good at what he does. Tutt is average at best , Jack of all trades Vs Master of one. Broad as it is wide I think
They must be looking @ some other RB's that got cut.....i thought Danny ran hard and had good vision.....o'well
I don't think Ware is good at what he does. He could be a so-so backup, nothing more. Let's think about this realistically. Here are the rushing attempts by the #3 RBs in the league in 2006- Musa Smith, BAL- 36 Shaud Williams, BUF- 2 Chris Perry, CIN- 10 Jerome Harrison, CLE- 20 Damien Nash, DEN- 18 (R.I.P.) Samkon Gado, HOU- 54 Ran Carthon, IND- 3 Alvin Pearman, JAX- 19 Dee Brown, KC- 10 Travis Minor, MIA- 19 Kevin Faulk, NE- 25 Cedric Houston, NYJ- 113 ReShard Lee, OAK- 21 Verron Haynes, PIT- 15 SD- 0 (Tomlinson and Turner only halfbacks to get carries) Chris Brown, TEN- 41 J.J. Arrington, ARI- 14 Marlion Jackson, ATL- 1 Nick Goings, CAR- 11 Adrian Peterson, CHI- 10 Tyson Thompson, DAL- 13 Aveion Cason, DET- 24 Noah Herron, GB- 37 Mewelde Moore, MIN- 24 Jamaal Branch, NO- 10 (all in meaningless Week 17 game) Chad Morton, NYG- 1 Ryan Moats, PHI- 22 Tony Fisher, STL- 6 Maurice Hicks, SF- 29 Marquis Weeks, SEA- 3 Earnest Graham, TB- 11 T.J. Duckett, WAS- 38 Those were the numbers for teams' #3 halfbacks. They averaged 20.63 rushing attempts. The number decreases to 17.65 if you exclude Cedric Houston's numbers which were heightened due to the Jets backfield-by-committee mess. You will notice there are not any standout players on the list. If Ware eventually gets on the Jets active roster, most likely he'd get between 0 and 20 garbage time carries this year. To make this team he would have had to have shown something on special teams. It didn't look to me that he did anything worthwhile on special teams in the preseason. I'm fairly certain this is why Ware did not make the roster. I betcha Tutt sees meaningful time from scrimmage this season and will make some sort of contribution on special teams.
I was definitely surprised Ware was cut, since he had a strong summer in camp. But I think if no one else claims him, he will end up on the Jets PS, to be activated if Leon or TJ gets nicked up. If he isnt even on the PS I'll be pissed-almost as p1ssed as the Jets not signing mcClover to the PS last year.
You've certainly done your homework , but right at this moment he wouldn't have been a #3 but a #2 as Jones (as far as we know) still has an achillies injury. As an out and out RB we only have TJ and leon now , but we do have 2 FBs. Thats what I mean
