This is much much much much much worse than if they had just lost 8-5. Yes, they showed some heart, but this game and series has exposed just how bad most of these players really are.
as pathetic as wagner's performance was this loss is 100% on willie. you set up guys to fail and that's what's going to happen.
with wagner and lo duca, you better hope no one ever gets on, because they'll just steal their way to 3rd
Far beyond disappointing. More like, "fucking piss you off and then stomp your heart into the fucking ground" type of loss.
No its not, but this is a guy that's supposedly suffering from dead arm and you're going to try to get a 2 inning save out of him for the first time in 8 years. So you bring him in in the 8th, and he gives up a run and throws 30 pitches. Then rather then bringing in Heilman for the 9th against the bottom of the order you leave Wagner out there to rot, throw 50 pitches and lose the game. It's idiocy.