No, the sad thing is that we've only played 2 preseason games and some of you are already coming unhinged. That is bloody sad. :lol: The reason they guy is starting is because he is the best option on our team right now. KC keeps improving then that might change, but obviously the CS feels otherwise. I am more likely to trust the opinions of paid professionals to make this decision over the antics of fan-atics on a message board. No offense.
You are 100% correct! The fact that you don't beat good teams like NE, SD and Baltimore with that dink and dunk crap. Basically the three teams we have to Definitely beat to get to the Super bowl will not go for that crap! This fact is missed with the rest of the board. That plus the fact that Defense is not elite means King Chad will actually have to put 20 points on the board for us to win.
When these professionals bring a Championship to the Jets then they will get Trust. What have they done to earn your trust. Nothing!
I don't think it's a big secret that I think Pennington is a barely servicable NFL QB. Fortunately the NFL is like major league baseball if you can throw the ball 80 MPH and have a little guile you can get by that's how thin the league is at the position. I'm not a big believer that the CS loves Pennington and thinks he is the best hope of winning the SB. I think they don't think Clemens is ready yet.
Well for starters they managed to land a job running an NFL team. Is your resume half as impressive? :breakdance: If what you saw from the CS last year did not earn some respect in your eyes I don't know what to do for you bud. Nevertheless, at least Champ will have some good friends to crow with this year. Like I said, it is going to be entertaining if nothing else.
since when have paid professionals always been right. how many times in your life have you wanted your money back? i think all of his critics have valid points. penny isnt garbage. but hes slowly losing the only attribhutes that made him good. mistake free football and timing. i dont know if anyone notices but hes likely to get our WR's killed. he needs a perfect throw just to beat coverage. thats why in slow mo everyones like wow thats a great pass. when in reality if it had gotten there sooner the plays would be even bigger. he hampers our running game also. now i do think he gives us the best chance to win. if he can at least have a good TD to INT ratio. casue last yr was him being lucky and coming through in make or break times and keeping us in cardiac arrest on 3rd downs. aside from some amazing outings against the packers, vikes, and lions. he did just enough to not lose. point in case, chad pennington is slowly becoming brad johnson, and last time i checked we dont have a lights out defense. KC may not be ready to lead this team to the playoffs, but those highly paid professionals passed on Leinart and Cutler and decided to draft Clemens instead. so they obviously think he is capable of running this team in the future. now im not calling for penny's head. all im saying is if this year appears to be a instant replay as far as his performance goes. pull the plug midseason and see what you have in KC.
The funny part is Chad has beaten two of those three teams already in huge spots.. How do you explain that?
If we should wind up less than .500 at mid-season, I think the most frustrating thing for all of us is going to be that we are really stacked with talent on the offense. I can't remember this much talent since Martin was healthy and Chrebet and Keyshawn were on the same field. In fact, this offense might have more overall talent than that team had. WR's Coles, Cotchery, McCariens, Brad Smith and now Stuckey, plus TE's Baker and Ryan and pass-catching RB's like Washington and Jones and some decent FB's. Couple all that with a better HC and overall coaching staff in general. THAT will be the frustrating thing. That'll also be the thing that puts immense pressure on Chad, knowing all this.
Poor Chad. Things were going good for him. Now Friday's game and the same fans are back at him. Over a preseason game, damn. How about the regular season game when Chad smoked the Vikings? If that was a real game I could see the first team offense responding and winning. Too early to pull the plug on Pennington just yet.
Agreed. Anyone thinking Schottenheimer and Mangini aren't aware of this is fooling themselves. The day Clemens emerges as being even close to Penny in terms of pocket presence, leadership skills, intelligent decision-making and coolness under fire is the day the CS will have some serious decisions to make. Clemens is showing some gains now, but he's still not there.
I don't even know what that response means. My point is Chad can easily beat a team like Minnesota like he did in 2006. Those plays were just unfortunate. He was 7/10 and 2 HUGE interceptions for touchdowns. Take those plays out and he is 7/8 40 yards, which is an okay preseason performance.
yeah you gotta love the 5.7 yards per completion average. forget the vikings, theyre not amazing. they have an amazing run defense yes. but other than that theyre nothing more than a solid team. i dont care that he beat some team last yr that we just lost too. this has nothing to do with the vikings and the fact you didnt get my response tells me everything i need to know.
You gonna compare the Colts and Chargers team that Chad beat to the ones they have now? Are you serious or what?
I agree with you 100%. With that said 500 at the midpoint is a possibility. When and if that should happen do you pull Chad or go in another direction?
Chad has had five years and he has done nothing to prove he can beat the Patriots when it counts in Jan. Im sure Kellen can check off to the Rb or throw coles a five yard slant as good if not better than Chad at this point. Chad gets a free play on an offside penalty and still throws a two yard dumpoff. 17 T/d and 16 Int does not show good decision making to me.
You are absolutely right, it does happen. That being said it is entirely too early to start crying for a coaching change here. We have a staff that took over an injury riddled team with major issues on both sides of the ball and turned out a postseason opportunity after having gone 4-12 the year before. That being done with a very limited running game, inexperience on the O-Line, new offensive and defensive systems, and the QB coming off a second shoulder surgery. Some of the folks making arguments against Penny have some valid points, but I would disagree that he's losing his ability to play mistake free football. You judging that on one shitty preseason performance? Or on last years mediocre statistics? Neither one is truly valid. We have all seen big armed QBs make throws that endanger WR as well. Going over the middle is a risk no matter who is chucking the ball. That is why girls don't play the game. You can either rely on having a QB that can be so good it will make a shitty running game look good, or you can get a better running game going. I prefer the latter, especially with Penny. I think it will help the offense out tremendously.
with the regular season 3 weeks away, we can't excuse Chad as being rusty too much longer. what if both first-teams played the entire game on Friday night? i think Chad would have become the rattled Chad and we wouldn't have won that game. sure, it was a Preseason game, but it still may be indicative that Chad hasn't taken the next step like so many of us expect him to this year. and we're not overreacting from one game; these are the problems Chad has shown over and over again. Clemens probably isn't ready and doesn't have the poise and leadership and all that stuff yet; however he's not going to gain any of that by holding the clipboard. in the third game, i'd like to see Clemens play with/against the first-teams as much as Chad does; that will better display where he stands.
