http://forums.theganggreen.com/showpost.php?p=354015&postcount=160 I think he's a tad overrated, too. The Glavine signing was a major red flag for me.
Minaya was the one who got us here to begin with. And if the Mets don't sign Glavine, what do we do then? What was the rotation you wanted to start the season?
Let me find an old post. I was all over this board in the fall about how I hated the idea of Glavine resigning with the Mets. As you've come to see, the Mets would have been fine without Glavine. Maine and Perez and Hernandez and Sosa have pitched well. Glavine has been spotty. Martinez may come back and still be effective. The Glavine resigning probably will mean the Mets will not trade for a starting pitcher before the July 31 trade deadline unless they trade away either Maine or Perez.
Yeah, but then who's the fifth guy? Pelfrey? Vargas? Or are you saying they'd get someone right away through a deal? I'm not saying the signing was a good one, but at the time (and I stand by this now) the lack of depth we have made the signing inevitable to me.
Minaya is good, but I don't know he should be as lauded as he's been with the media and fans. His big Mets move was signing Martinez and that was mostly based on having money to work with. If Minaya stayed on board as the GM of the Expos/Nationals, Martinez would not have signed with Washington. The guy traded Grady Sizemore, Cliff Lee, Brandon Phillips, and Lee Stevens for Bartolo Colon and Tim Drew on June 27, 2002. Colon was a half season rental and did good by going 10-4 with a 3.31 ERA and 1.32 WHIP. However, that Expos team was on the outside looking in. Many people didn't give them a good shot to make the playoffs when that deal was made. The Tom Glavine resigning after the 2006 season. Egads. But that's the negative on him. He does have some feathers in his cap, too. I have not yet located any post-2006 season posts where I wrote who I wanted to be in the starting rotation. I know I wanted Maine and Perez in it. There are also offseason posts where I noted I wanted Pelfrey and Heilman traded. I'm still waiting on that.
It doesn't matter what the depth was. It makes little sense to bring in a 41-year old pitcher with diminishing skills unless you are getting him dirt cheap. If the Mets make no deals for SPs and none get injured, they'll have six SPs before we know it. Maine Perez Hernandez Martinez Sosa Glavine They'll only start 3 in the playoffs. Maybe a 4th would get one start. Who would go to the bullpen? El Duque has experience there and Sosa would certainly have to go there. Maine and Perez can't go to the bullpen. Martinez and Glavine would probably be too prideful about going there. Some Mets fans want the team to get a frontline starter. I don't see how one can be added, barring an injury, unless Maine or Perez go in the same deal. Something like Perez or Maine and a prospect for Oswalt.
They very well may have done just that. I would have liked it more than what did happen. Did SF make that obscene offer to Zito before or after the Mets resigned Glavine?
Okay, so if the Mets didn't resign Glavine that would have provided them with extra money to overpay for Zito. Maybe 100 million to NY would have gotten it done. Overpaying for Zito to me was preferable to paying for Glavine.
I'd rather throw all that money at an ace this year (hopefully Zambrano) then overspend like crazy for a #2 type of pitcher last year
and he only got him by giving him too many years and too much money. he's done. there's a reason the mets were the only team to offer 4 years. obviously he wouldn't have gotten him with montreal. montreal couldn't sign ANY big money free agents, because MLB limited their payroll greatly. somehow, I don't think he'd have given taken a one year 5 million deal to return to his former team :lol:
That particular guy I don't like. Him in NY is scary to me. I can see him having a couple bad games and the press and fans getting to him. I also don't like his body type. He's probably going to get puffy like Bartolo Colon and then consequently get injured.
yes, I've heard the argument that getting pedro allowed us to get some other latinos. I still hate the signing and I hated it at the time.
