If the rookie can throw a five yard pass and scramble then yes. I rather a punchers chance as opposed to no chance with chad. What plays did he call. Run right? Run Left? A few Draw plays? The Passing game was no existent! There was no offense to be coordinated. Everybody knew a run was coming on every play.
We had no chance? How is lining up for a game winning FG twice no chance? You think if Bollinger plays we make the FG? Or we blow them out so bad we don't need the FG? Please elaborate. And how did Bollinger fare with a year under his belt in 2005 against teams far less talented than 15-1 Pittsburgh?
When Chad played with a torn cuff in San Diego, I was lucky enough to see one of the best games of my life, in person. I was lucky enough to see Chargers fans crying in the stands, and beating the crap out of each other in the parking lot. The first time I saw a live game was 3 years earlier. The invincible Bolts (at the time) got destroyed by Chad and the Jets. In both games Chad was the reason we won. Whether it be throwing TD passes or running for first downs, the guy just wants to win. Does his 20-30 yard out float? Yes. But you cannot teach leadership and heart, and Chad has both in spades.
If Bollinger plays maybe we can throw a five yard button hook and the field goal does not hit the front of the goal post or come up short.
A loss is a loss at least we would have had a better chance at getting the last five yards needed to win the game.
You really think Herm is passing the ball in that spot with a rookie in there? All he really had to do was give it to Curtis Martin for a few yards, regardless of the QB, instead of taking a knee.
They tried that and where did it get us. Pitt stacked the line because they knew Chad could not throw. If they would have handed off one more time to martin he might have lost yards.
The issue here really is that whether or not the Jets made that FG they were effectively done for the season. Chad was not going to be able to do much the following week and Bollinger definitely was not going to win the AFC Championship game. I've second-guessed Herm a lot on that sequence of plays because having Chad take a knee that far out was just such a bad call, however the season was basically dead at that point. My guess is that Herm knew Chad couldn't throw any more and figured there was no point in bringing in Bollinger because he was a dead end for the season anyway. Then again Herm could have just been thinking: Coca-cola, man I could use a Coke right now... He tended to get that way in the last few minutes of tight games.
We were basically in the No Win scenario. We can beat this thing to death but at the end of the day it was not meant for us to win.
So while we were getting ready to try a FG that would send us to the AFC Championship game, you were thinking the season is over and dead at that point? Way to stick with your team.
I stick with my team even when I know we are going to loose. I am a football fan above else and I see my team for what it is good or bad. I wanted us to win but it was not meant to be that day. I was just as pissed as you.
Fair enough. But if I'm reading it right, Br4dw4y is saying he knew in the sequence before the FG, with the knee, etc, that the season was dead then. That's a bit defeatest, isn't it? At least wait for the guy to try the kick, try to move the ball forward. And again, lose, not loose. Dammit.
Hey I can give you about 50 examples of Hockey players that were FUBAR and still played. Mark Messier 1984 in the Stanley Cup Semi Finals played with his arm essentially tied to his side because of a seperated shoulder, he could not even take a slap shot, that would entail he lift that arm. Paul Coffey- Had his hip frozen to play the entire 1985 finals Brian Leetch played with a broken wrist against Philly in 1997. 3-4 games Steve Yzerman- Played an entire playoff year with a shredded knee. His MCL was torn completely yet he still played. To this day I have no idea how. That is the mentality of players. The only time I think a player should not be given any option to play or not is when he has a brain or spinal injury. Double standard yes but I hope you see why. If a coach made them play then it is all on the coach imo. Anyway, Hockey now takes it out of both the players and coaches hands, hopefully football will follow suit. so on and so forth...........................
ok ok something to write about and something for us to read. every damn year we hear chads arm wtf.... we know already and almost every year he proves himself... yes i know we need to throw the deep ball, chad needs is to be on point and anticipate the route run and where the defender might be and he can throw deep with accuracy, just look at the playoff game against the chargers, he threw a beautiful pass to moss.
Whether Chad can perform well enough in a well executed game in the playoffs against an elite team is a reasonable debate? The Pitt game was not on Chad. QC was AWOL we had no other option. The fact is we had Pitt reeling at the end of the game and as soon as we were in position the entire O was shut down. Great HC step on the throat of teams that are reeling and tired. We relaxed, the coaches slowed down everything, we went from running plays with a purpose to clock killing mode as soon as FG position was sniffed. The kneel down was the crowning jewel in Herm's game philosophy and it was further solidified by drafting a kicker with a second round pick when we were desperate for OL help in that draft.
Actually, I blame our defense for the loss in NE last year. Whenever they wanted to move down the field and score, they did. Did Chad throw a bad pass that got returned for a TD that game? Sure. Did our defense step up to stop the Pats when they were running all over us? Nope. Did our defense ever get close enough to Brady to throw off any of his timing? Nope. Every loss is not on Chad, just like every win is not because of Chad.
When we needed Chad to step up and get us in the end zone on numerous occasions we came away with field goals or nothing like we always do. This is our reality for 2007-2008. Chargers, Patriots, Colts and Bengals! No 12-10 playoff wins will come there. In other words Chad the great will have to step up with no excuses.
New England iced that game with something like an 8 minute drive in the second half after the Jets scored, if I remember correctly. Unluss Chad was playing defense, I'd say that wasn't his fault.
