I'm not sure whether this thread belongs here but I'm curious to see what you folks think is an appropriate price to give up in order to pick-up another top-flight CB in the Supplemental Draft. I think that giving a 2nd rounder isn't a bad price to pay for someone who had shut down Calvin Johnson and who may very well have been drafted in the first round had he declared himself available for the 2007 draft instead of going back to school. A corenerback tandem of Revis and Oliver does sound intriguing.
Teams that give up future picks at the rate the Jets have the last few years wind up crashing and burning.
i would say a 2nd rounder because if he came out earlier(during the regular draft) he wouldve went around there. With a good year this year, he couldve been the 1st or 2nd best CB in the draft. But the problem is theres a buncha teams that would be willing to give up a 2nd rounder, so teams start over bidding. We bid a 2nd, which im cool with, but if the Lions were to offer a 2nd they would get him.
This isn't giving up a future pick. This is trading a 2nd round pick next year for a 2nd round pick this year basically.
Unless they did a lot of scouting on this kid and think it's worth giving up a 1st, 2 2nds and a 5th to the cornerback position in 2007 drafts, I don't think they'll go after this kid.
If the guy wasn't drafted, there must be a reason for it. For every Wayne Chrebets, there are thousands of others that don't even make the team, much less get cut AFTER making the team.
From what I read, he failed to meet some academic standard for his school after he decided not to declare for the NFL and to stay in school for 2007.
At some point between now and then... Mark my words, if the supplemental draft doesn't happen sooner it will happen later.
Thats not the case. He is ranked right now as the #3 corner for next years draft. He wasnt eligible for this year draft but something happened with his status at school so he is entering the supplemental draft the same way Ahmad Brooks did last year. He is a first round talent make no mistake about it
No, EA sports creates their likenesses in Supplemental Madden 2007, one big bowl game, winner takes all- the stats speak for themselves.
He didn't enter the draft because he decided to go back to school. However, he became academically ineligible and he decided to throw his lot into the Supplemental Draft.
This year, I think we went for quality at a premium in giving up a considerable number of picks, but if the 2 guys come in, and even TJ for that matter, and really contribute big time as starters and continue to get better for the next 2 or 3 years under contract, then it was worth it. If not, then that would be the burn part. A 6th for Ramsey wasn't overpaying at the time, even though he basically stank. The 4th for Kevin Barlow: we were hosed, but at the time it was a case of the haves vs. the have nots. We needed some kind of credible RB. We tried, but sorry. I won't count what ever we gave up for Blaylock - who stunk; or giving up a a late 1st round or early second (I am foggy here) for that super stinky tight end from the Raiders, Doug Jolley - we were completely taken for a ride here. Also, drafting Nugent as a second rounder is very questionable. I am not saying Nugent is bad, frankly he seems like he will work out fine, though still needs to get better. I do think we over-paid for him as a second rounder though.
we dont even need another CB. we traded up to the #14 pick to draft the best CB in the draft. there would be no point giving up a day one pick for a postion that doesnt even need to be upgraded
And of those, only one was under the current administration. And I can't bring myself to dislike the move really, it was pretty much our only option. We had a rookie scat back, and a mediocre young back up. We needed some sort of veteran RB on the team, and we took what we could.
That's a future pick. Teams that give up future picks at a high rate tend to crash and burn. I'll gladly pay you Tuesday for a hamburger today makes you fat today and poor on Tuesday.
The Jets have consistently bundled picks to move up and traded future picks for marginal players over the last 7 seasons. That's the primary reason that the depth and talent are not where they need to be to compete with teams like New England and Indianapolis. The San Diego Chargers have about 5 players that are better than anybody on the Jet's roster right now and they have more than a few backups that are as good as the Jet's starters at their position. That's because after the Ryan Leaf fiasco they began to trade down in the first round and to trade marginal players for future picks. As a result they are the class of the NFL when it comes to talent. The Patriots have followed virtually the same MO, and where are they now?
