So lemme get this straight...Because Yankees fans care more about the Yankees than baseball, that's a problem? Now, the Yankees just the logo or the TEAM? Of course you like the Mets more than anyone else right? You pay more attention and watch more games that the Mets are playing than anyone else right? Of course you'll watch other games, like last night I enjoyed watching Fausto Carmona pitch last night against Detroit, i'll watch other baseball anytime, but the Yankees will always be 1st and foremost, but I feel that's a moot point and obvious. They don't deserve to have the best team...But sorry that I expected the post-season at minimum considering the money they spend. It's an absolute disgrace how they're playing and most of these overpriced players are just not conttributing. I don't think the Yanks are THIS bad, but they aren't that much better...I see them as only an barely above .500 baseball club, no more than 85 wins, it's a joke. I agree that they've gotten old, especially the outfield. But with the lineup, and the potential of a better rotation than last season, I figured a postseason again, but they are just completely playing horrible, and it isn't just one part of the team.
He's not talking about you, man. You're standing here, by your team, as bad as they may be playing right now. He's talking more about it bandwagoners who are getting vicious to a point because they're realizing that they feel like they need to change their whole wardrobe over to blue and orange. I absolutely despise people like that, but they all deserve their comeupance. It's too bad that us true Mets fans are now going to have to deal with these assholes on a regular basis. I really feel bad this season for you true blue Yankee fans because I truly respect all that your franchise has done and I respect the fact that you guys did stick with your team when they were terrible in the early 90's and late 80's, and many times before that, just as we were through the early 90's and 02-04 with the Mets.
^If that's what Orlando is saying then I agree with you. Yankees fans probably have the biggest bandwagon fan base in sports, nobody is denying that...But you saw a big RedSox boom in 04', you're starting to see MORE Mets fans, of course their are the die-hards, like every team, but you'll notice more and more with winning, just a bunch of fair weathers.
It's not out of the question.... Look at the roster Pitchers: Mike Mussina Age 38 17th MLB season Andy Pettite 35 in 3 weeks 13th ML season Mike Myers 38 in a month 13th ML season Ron Villone 37 13th ML season Mariano Rivera 37 13th ML season OF Hideki Matsui 33 in 2 weeks, 5th ML season coming off serious wrist injury. 10 seasons in Japan Johnny Damon 33 13th ML season Bobby Abreu 33 12th ML season DH Jason Giambi 36 13th ML season IF Derek Jeter 33 in a month 13th ML season Doug Alphabet Soup 33 in a month 10th ML season C Jorge Posada 35 13th ML season Bench Miguel Cairo 33 12th ML season
Once again your missing the point, there is a difference between expecting and deserving. There is nothing wrong with expectations; in fact it's great that you expect your team to be in the playoffs but that doesn't mean they deserve to go. Another thing Yankee fans fail to realize is that while they have been adding overpriced aging vets teams around them like Detroit, Cleveland, Baltimore, Toronto and even to an extent Boston have been getting younger and better. Cleveland and Detroit have been doing it through the minor league system which for about 5 years was a forgotten by the Yankees. It should be no surprise that all these teams either are or have the potential to be better than the Yankees.
I agree with some of what you have to say. The Yanks are attempting to create a youth movement, but it is going to take more then one year. They have arms which have me excited only problem is that they are in single A and AA ball
To be clear, I hardly ever talk baseball on here so I'm not really in any position to be calling out any Yankee fans here on the board. I'm saying the people you encounter in everyday life. On the surface I would think most people who are posting on an New York Jets board--in May, no less--are not your fair weather fans.
I think anytime a fan cares more about a certain team then the game being played it's a problem. I understand others might not agree with that or understand that but that's where I agree with Cabrera. As I said I don't think that's specific to NYY fans but I also don't have a problem with what Cabrera said because I see a lot of it in NY (because that's where I live). I played the game, I love the game... in simplest terms I'm a baseball fan who roots for the Mets. I imagine you're probably the same way Ecko so I don't understand why you'd take Cabrera's comments personally. A guy like Cabrera grew up loving the game, he dedicated his life to it... not one specific team. I understand his point of view on this.
Sometimes it's hard to simply enjoy "good baseball" when their is such immature hatred coming from fans of other teams, mainly the Sox and Mets. We know if we lose 2-3 games in a row, suddenly "Yankees suck" or "It's the end of the dynasty"..
I may be missing what you're saying here but I don't think I agree with this. Being a fan of a baseball team is a pretty large time commitment in terms of just watching all their games. I rarely if ever watch a baseball game that doesn't involve the Mets and I don't think that makes me not a fan of the game. As opposed to football where your favorite team is only playing a couple hours a week I think it's pretty easy to get your baseball fix by just watching the team you root for.
Let me clarify... when Cabrera says "They don't appreciate good baseball: They just appreciate the Yankees beating up on everybody." he is speaking to a certain brand of fan... the type that watched a 13-2 Yankee victory over the Devil Rays and says, that was a great game. I've seen this fan and I agree with Cabrera when he calls them out. 13-2 may be a good result if your team wins that game but it doesn't mean it was a great game.
Well, the fans have finally turned on Torre at the stadium (long overdue). Hopefully that will give Steinberenner all he needs to get things going in the right direction. Probably too late for this year but could be a jump start on next year.
I don't think anybody says the Yankees suck because they lost 2/3. Look at the team. They are OLD at EVERY position, except 2b. Better yet, look at the standings. Better yet, look at the manager and GM who most likely will not be around next year. AND, forget AROD being around next year. If you read the LA newspapers, the Angels are ready to offer him an "ownership" position in the team, and the CHISOX already have been rumored to be ready to offer him a 200M contract. Is George going to step up? Does AROD want to stay? AND George is 76. His sons don't have his piss and vinegar in their veins. His daughter will probably be calling the shots. GOOD LUCK.
One of his sons has more "piss and vinegar" then George, the other has none. Torre and Cashman will absolutely NOT be back next year, you can bank on it. Arod still has to opt out before anything can happen and he wants to play in NY..so maybe the Mets can sign him if he does. Chicago is not in a position to offer Arod a penney btw, not until the team is sold and the new owners take over.
Oh this year they DO suck...but i'm referring to things generally... Since 96, everytime we go on the slightest losing streak, Sox and Mets fans pounce all over it. As arrogant/annoying alot of Yankee fans are....many Sox and Mets fans feed the fire substantially.
I don't know if they would (ever though they salivated over him once before). Last I checked there are only two teams in NY though..so....
How do you know he wants to play in NY though? There are a lot of teams that could potentially sign A-Rod. Ever since they signed Vlad, the Angels have been looking for another offensive star to pair with him. The Cubs could sign him and put him at SS, where he'd be reunited with Lou Piniella. Heck, how about the San Francisco Giants? They could opt not to bring back Bonds (or he could choose to retire) and then they'd have a big hole to fill on offense and a lot of money to spend.
