10 Games Out Boys

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  1. plasticsloth

    plasticsloth Well-Known Member

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    torre needs to get fired before the boston series. This team needs something to wake them up. Torre just sits on his ass and doesn't look like he cares anymore. he needs to get fired and mattingly needs to take over to try and turn around this team. I dont care if clemens came in because of torre. The yanks shouldn't even need clemens and clemens wont turn this team around enough. There needs to be some change. Get rid of torre, BUT i would absolutely hate to see cashman go. I think he has done a great job brining in talent. The only thing im afraid of is that cashman and torre are a package and if one goes the other goes. Please George! FIRE TORRE.
     
  2. Learn To Swim

    Learn To Swim 2008 Nightowltom "Best Non-Jets Poster" Award Winn

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    The main thing we need to do to keep Perez's head on straight is have a good defense behind him. Willie's a smart man for going with Chavez and Gomez when Ollie starts.
     
  3. WWWestonC

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    10.5 games out. Bwahah
     
  4. Pride

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    1986 bwhahahaha
     
  5. WWWestonC

    WWWestonC New Member

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    Two Thousand Four
     
  6. Pride

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    What about it? The Mets finished 20 games below .500 in 2004?
     
  7. WWWestonC

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    true. But the Red Sox didn't.
     
  8. Pride

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    Im sure you had a great time celebrating someting non Met related in baseball, as you probably have your entire life.
     
  9. Dirtywater

    Dirtywater 2005 Award Winner: Best non-Jets fan poster/Best S

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    Hey look, just like us last season, you got a lot of injuries. I believe if you had healthy pitching, your offense would be far better. It has to be demoralizing, right?

    You can't win 'em all, and this is just an off year it appears. Even with our huge lead, I for one do not feel safe. You guys win the AL East every season.

    So in the grand scheme of things, big deal. An off-year. You guys will be fine.
     
  10. Dirtywater

    Dirtywater 2005 Award Winner: Best non-Jets fan poster/Best S

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    Who cares. It gets me because I was around for it to matter, but to this generation? It's meaningless. It's something on a Top Ten list from one of those Fox shows. That's all.

    2004 is fresh in people's minds. I am not saying one is more or less impactfull, but in terms of what this generation can relate to, '04 holds more "rubbing it in" factor. '86 is meaningless (although not to me! :lol: )
     
  11. EcKo151

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    The Boss needs to take his Jet to New York this week and make the decision on Torre and or Cashman.

    Torre is a broken record after every game press conference...He has no answers, and that's a man looking over his shoulder.
     
  12. davecrazy

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    Steinbrenner is a sick old man who dosen't run the team anymore.
     
  13. EcKo151

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    He can easily, EASILY just make one phone call and Torre is gone.

    You make it sound like he just completely went away. George would have no problem whatsoever firing Torre if this team is still drowning by June.

    Now, he lets Cashman do whatever with his money, and Cashman has taken a bigger role since The Boss has had some FA flops...

    But The Boss can still fire anybody, he runs this team to the point where he can fire Torre, if not, he wouldn't of said Cash and Torre's jobs are safe...For Now.
     
  14. typeOnegative13NY

    typeOnegative13NY Well-Known Member

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    he looked fine to me sitting Tampa last night watching Clemens pitch
     
  15. EcKo151

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    He even came outside and watched the game for about 2 innings just talking to a guy.

    He may be old, but he has no problem dropping the hammer on anybody, even Torre.
     
  16. Br4d

    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    No it all starts with A-Rod.

    I'm a Met's fan but I can tell you that A-Rod is not worth a quarter of what he's paid. And yes, he's leading the AL in everything and it just doesn't matter because his teams have no heart.

    Before A-Rod came to the Yankees they were in some trouble but they were defined by people like Jeter and Williams and Posada, guys who put their heart into every play and left it all on the field. They had won 101 and 103 games in the two seasons before he arrived. They won 101 in 2004 and have been declining ever since.

    The reason I think A-Rod is the problem is that he made no measureable positive impact on the Yankees after he arrived. They're a worse team than they were before they got him and that seems to be almost impossible given the production that he brings to the offense.

    But wait, there's a precedent. The 2000 Texas Rangers won 71 games after having been a much better team for the three seasons before that (95, 88 and 77 wins in 1999, 1998 and 1997.) In 2001 A-Rod shows up and brings all that production and they win: drum roll please, 73 games. In the following two seasons they win 72 and 71 games. All of his production did nothing for them.

    If the Yankees want to have any chance of winning the world series this year they don't need to fire Torre, they need to fire A-Rod. Because he's an enormous hole in the record of any team he joins. How ever many wins he brings with his bat he subtracts just as many in some other mysterious way because his bat hasn't been the difference in even a few wins for his teams.

    This is not the Twilight Zone, this is the truth.
     
  17. davecrazy

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    Like anybody suffering with Althizmers or a smiliar affliction, i'm sure he has his good days and his bad days.

    http://www.newsday.com/sports/baseb...212,0,1320132.column?coll=ny-sports-headlines


    http://www.recordonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070223/SPORTS/702230358/-1/SPORTS0302

     
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  18. typeOnegative13NY

    typeOnegative13NY Well-Known Member

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    Yeah,i just don't want Mattingly to take over.
     
  19. Drew

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    Excellent post. You hit it right on the head.

    I'd love to see Joe Girardi get the job.
     
  20. Br4d

    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    It's probably not Alzheimer's. There may be an element of senile dementia but it sounds more to me like a nervous disorder brought on by aging.

    Alzheimer's would have progressed a lot fast than whatever he has. We've been hearing "shaky Steinbrenner" stories for going on 4 years now and AD would have likely caused him to deteriorate so much over that timespan that he'd be in seclusion by now and completely out of the public eye.
     

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