Brett Favre: top 10 QB??

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  1. Penning10toColes

    Penning10toColes Active Member

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    ESPN has a poll about the Brett Favre situation, and one of the questions asked where does Brett Favre rank in the NFL right now. Most people said 6-10. Is it just me, or is that absolutely ridiculous?

    Manning
    Brady
    McNabb
    Brees
    Palmer
    Bulger
    Hasselback
    Rivers
    Young
    Pennington

    In no particular order...But wouldn't you take those ten guys over Favre for next year? you could make a case for others too: Big Ben, Vick, McNair, Leinart...
     
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    For a single season, next season, I would not take McNabb (injury-prone), Hasselback (just not as good a QB as Favre in any facet of the job), Young (still has a season or two worth of seasoning before he's in that class) and Pennington (just not the same quality QB.)

    I would take Bulger (streaky) and Rivers (still much to prove) with some misgivings.

    I would not take Favre over Roethlisberger (ego out of control but a great QB) either.

    That makes Favre a top 8 QB. And yes I would take him in a heartbeat as the Jet's starting QB for 2007.
     
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    Wow...I'm a little surprised. I don't think Favre is in that class anymore: Whereas the QBs listed are plusses for their team, I think Favre is a minus.

    Favre over Pennington's one thing...but over Hasselback? I'm very surprised. He's a quality QB. Over McNabb is shocking too, because as injury prone as he is, Favre just isn't as good.
     
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    A guy with an arm like that, and can read just about ne defense is no way a liability for his team. Due to his lack of playmakers he has to force things sometimes.
     
  5. Namath2Kolber

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    Favre is not a top 10 QB anymore. He just chucks the ball downfield every opportunity he gets with no accuracy. And, once a game starts going south, he gets frustrated and gives up.

    Chad is better.

    Here's the top 10 QBs in the NFL right now (based on current talent, not potential):
    1. Peyton
    2. Brady
    3. Brees
    4. Carson Palmer
    5. Matt Hasselbeck
    6. Marc Bulger
    7. Jake Delhomme
    8. Ben Roethlesberger
    9. Phil Rivers
    10. Chadwick
     
  6. Br4d

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    Well, if the truth be told he has always forced things down the field and thrown some INT's that most QBs would never let go of. He's good enough to get away with that in the same way that Babe Ruth was good enough to strike out 80 or 90 times a year at a time when most hitters got retired quickly for striking out 50 times.
     
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    Hasselbeck has had some great personnel around him the last few seasons. Give Favre Shaun Alexander as a counterpunch and it would be a whole different story. Hasselbeck has also had a better line in front of him and a wide variety of good receivers to throw too.

    The McNabb thing is cut and dried, the man has averaged 12 starts a season over the last 5 years. He's been at 10 or under in 3 of them. That's no kind of QB to try to win a Super Bowl with.

    BTW, take a look at what happened to Hasselbeck last season when Steve Hutchinson and Shaun Alexander were both unavailable. He's really not a dominant QB at all when he has average players around him. I probably would not take him over Chad to QB the Jets right now. Chad at least maintains order when he has less than championship caliber talent around him.

    Just to add on one more comparison: if you'd put John Elway on the 2005 and 2006 Packers as his last two teams he would have retired without a ring. If you put Brett Favre, as he is right now, in as QB on the 1997 and 1998 Broncos he'd have an excellent shot at two rings.
     
  8. Penning10toColes

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    There's really nothing worse than when you realize you have absolutely no response to a good point.
     
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    That's the best true compliment i've heard about chad in a long time...if nothing else, grace under pressure would definitely be one of his strong points. But I'd take Burt Fruve in a second over our fearless leader...even now.

    P.S. Browning frickin' Nagle, the great retarded hope, our leaf to NO/Pack's manning. Sorry just had to get that out. Word.
     
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    Burt is the man!
     
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    no, only qbs I'd take over Favre are Manning Brady Palmer.

    lets remember Favre has had no talent around him aside from Driver for quite some time.

    hes still a top 10 qb.
     
  12. Beamen

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    I think Favre is vastly overrated by the football community. There are loads of young QBs I'd take over him in a second, because, although they may make the same mistakes all young QBs do from time to time, they will not be deliberately forcing balls and trying to do everything themselves. Favre thinks he's still the QB he used to be, and he simply isn't. I'm sorry, I don't care how much talent you put around him, hit him with a little bit of pressure, or some exceptional coverage, and he crumbles. Not like most QBs whose production drops off in these circumstances, Favre literally crumbles. He falls away from passes, forces them and throws pick after pick after pick. At this point, I'd take most of the QBs in football over him.

    In no particular order:

    Manning
    Brady
    Palmer
    McNabb (when healthy)
    Alex Smith
    Vince Young
    Leinart
    Cutler
    Bulger
    Hasselbeck
    Brees
    Losman
    Pennington
    McNair (when healthy)
    Roethlisberger
    Rivers
    Trent Green (when healthy)

    Those are the guys who, IMO, give their team a better chance to win than Favre would in that same situation. Most of these guys aren't prone to forcing things or getting out of control, throwing away ballgames, and that's the big difference. If I were a coach or a teammate, I would never want a QB who goes out there and singlehandedly makes anywhere form 2-5 games a year unwinnable; and that's what Favre does
     
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    Interesting how wide ranging the thoughts are on this one: Favre is somewhere between the 4th and 18th best quarterback in the league. Glad we settled this.
     
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    depends on the team setup, but I'd put him somewhere between 24 and 42
     
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    no way is Favre a top 10 QB at this point. He should've retired after 2004. He doesn't have it anymore, and he's hurting the packers.
     
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    Favre is keeping the Packers afloat. Find me some talent on last year's team. Driver and a second round rookie, Jennings. No TEs, and mediocre at best RBs.

    With just 2007 in my mindset, I take Favre over Pennington without question.
     
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    Jeez ,

    I cant believe anyone would want Favre over just about any QB in the league for 2007 , Id take Brooks Bollinger over him.

    Great QB but his time has passed , for every great play he makes these days he makes 2 bonehead ones , his brain thinks he can make the throws he could 10 years ago and he cant.
     
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    He has no physical limitations in terms of passing. I can think of probably 3 guys who can out-cannon Favre: Russell, Leftwich, Palmer.
     
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    Believe me when I say that the Packers are not keeping Favre around out of some misguided sense of loyalty to him. They're keeping him around because there is nobody available, including Aaron Rodgers, who would do better than him leading the Pack on the field right now.
     
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    Farve's money might bring in more talent. All their Rbs have performed well the last few years, Farve doesn't have the ability to throw some of the passes he could in his prime. He forces and throws pics, which kill the team, he's too arrogant to throw the ball away
     

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