I can't stand that philosophy-- if you keep saying that, eventually you end up spending 5 million dollars on guys who won't do a thing for you. Haynes, Wadsworth, Kimo, Hamilton, and Andruzzi add up to about 4-5 mill a year. Pretty sure I'd rather have 1 good player than those 5 scrubs. I'd rather have one 3 million dollar player, and 4 rookie free agents to be the long shots at 270K a year.
But Andruzzi by himself isn't 5 million dolarrs a year...I see no reason not to get him. He's still a decent starter, and who's going to play instead of him? Bender's a while away, and the other contenders are scrubs (this is assuming Kendall goes).
But you have to have back ups,and cheap veterans who may have something left in tank are a good way to go.I'm not a big fan on Anthony Clements but we signed him for little money as a backup and he actually managed to beat out the player we had lined up to start.
Kinda like what Belli did when he first went to N.E. and took a bunch of "washed up" Jets players and used them to build his early Superbowl teams. If your familiar with the player and he knows the system AND he is still capable of producing on the field, Why not? :wink:
Like I said-- it's the philosophy I don't like-- you're right- signing one more vet to league min isn't going to break us. Much like if I didn't vote for the president, the outcome would still be the same. However, if you add up enough "smart signing, he's cheap" guys, they add up to millions against the cap. I felt the same when Kimo got 10 million-- If we give this guy anything other than league min, I'll scream. I'd rather have Kendal, or Moore -- I don't think this guy is anything more than a liability on someones line. We're trying to be a playoff team--- he's not an upgrade over anyone we currently have. If that drawn out explination doesn't work, how about this one... The Browns just cut him.
Haha. That last sentence was a fair point. But Kimo or Teague last year were much worse signings, just for the record. I'm for the signing, but I don't think it'll make us or break us.
Why did the Browns cut him? They have to sign 2 #1's, #3 and #22(2nd QB taken) overall and they gave their center a fortune last year and Steinbach a fortune this year. How much could they spend on OL. Not to mention they gave their former LT that they are moving to RT a ton as well. They have to give Thomas more than we gave Brick. They are spent out. Andruzzi would cost much less than Kendall and WANTS TO BE A JET! It sounds like the Kendall thing is a contract issue.
That's the same question I've been contemplating for the past couple days. Just because Miami is stupid enough to do it, doesn't mean we are.
I depends on what the Jets get in return and if anyone else wants Kendall. If the Jets refuse to renegotiate and want to unload Kendall, to say sign an Andruzzi, and Miami is the only taker, they might not have a choice. Unless of course they are willing to eat the cap hit this year by just cutting him, in which case he might go to Miami anyway. And I wouldn't mind trading within the division, but the price has to go up (as is the same in every sport). If normally they can get a 5th (just for arguments sake) for Kendall outside of the division, if they trade within the division they ask for a 4th, or a 5th plus a player, or a 5th plus other lower picks.
I swear, sometimes i feel like i'm talking to a wall. I didn't say that we would. I merely said that IF kendall went to miami, it would HAVE to INVOLVE a TRADE. I never said that I wanted us to or that we will. hmy:
All he asked was why the Jets would be interested in trading with a division rival. It wasn't a big deal. If you don't want people to react to your post, then you'd actually be better served talking to a wall. :breakdance:
Yeah, that's fair enough. I'm not exactly high on the Andruzzi thing either though. If Kendall is that much of a pain in the ass, then he does need to go. However, I'd rather send him elsewhere, outside the division.
I agree completely. But we don't know if any other teams are interested. If it is a choice between just cutting him and him ending up in Miami anyway, or trying to get anything for him, I'd say make the trade. But we really don't know all the details, so it is hard to make a judgement.
why not? because the browns drafted an OL with the 3rd pick in the draft, and if this guy was worth having on your team. they would pair him next to Joe Thomas and have a solid left side. instead they want nothing to do with him. reported knee injuries and hes the first to get cut from a line that had questionable run blocking. no thanks. if we sign him its cuz Mangini has another hard on for a mediocre talent he can get at league minimum
they really need to pony up the extra Mil for this 1 yr and draft his replacement early next yr or work FA. the last thing we need is to get rid of a solid starter and watch him tell the dolphins everything we do on offense. let alone the fact hes still got another year or two of solid playing in him. i now think mangini is scared of players who are willing to speak up about the organization behind closed doors.
It's not about that. It's about the "team mayor" concept. Belli and Parcells do the same thing. Actually, the best coaches all do the same thing. Every team needs vocal leaders in the clubhouse. However, when that leader is simply a voice of dissent, he needs to be clean out with the other trash. A team needs to buy into the concepts laid out by the coaching staff. If Kendall is really opening his trap and speaking against Mangini's plans, he's detrimental to the operation. You can't have a vet telling young players not to listen to the coach. Look at Miller. Thanks to Ty Law, a promising young player is already nothing more than a kick returner.
