If we gave away this many picks in this year draft why didn't we pull the tigger for the Reggie Bush trade in last year draft? Bush is a hell of a lot better football player then Revis. I just don't get it.
Let's see. The Saints wanted our 2 first round picks, and a 4th, and the 1st in 2007. So sacrifice Brick, Mangold, Leon, and Revis for Bush....Sounds real "smart"
They are not comparable situations. Different value, different needs, different draft, different "team"
Probably had to give up way too much... You probably wouldn't of had the chance to get the CB this year..
I think that last year Mangini came into town with the Jets coming off a terrible season with the mentality that there just wasn't a lot of talent on the team. So Mangini's strategy was basically to draft a group of guys that could be his guys and kind of start from scratch. Then, over the course of the season, Mangini warmed up to a lot of the existing players and realized that there was more talent on the Jets than he thought. Cotchery, obviously, is the best example of that. This year, Mangini and Tanenbaum didn't have so many holes to fill and were more comfortable with keeping guys from the Bradway/Herm era. That's why they traded up this year and wouldn't last year for Bush.
we will find out this year how much talent and how good of a coach Eric is. Not trying to take anything away from Eric and what this team did last season but are schudule last season really helped us. We haven't lose anybody this season that worth speaking of so we will really see where this team stands after this seaon.
you can probably take it a step further and say why did we cut mawae, creating a gaping hole at center and we could have picked up a tackle in rounds 3 or 4 last year and....... well we cant have our bush and eat it too, so they say. well folks, i hope that scenario was at least discussed during last off season but, IMO, it may be hard to have that foresight considering what the texans did with williams. i have NO problem with last year OR this year....but in the interest of bitching about something which many people around here tend to be very good at.... - ferguson was probably too high at 4 - schlegel was flat out not a good pick in R3 - and the 4 picks we just made in 07 is probably one short of the minimal number any team should have in a draft. i have heard some influential personnel people say that you cannot have less than 5 picks in a 7 round draft. if you have to wheel and deal, tap into the next draft but no higher than a 3. jil
Ferguson was a legit Top 5 pick. Will he be an Ogden or Pace...probably not, but I expect he will develop into a Pro Bowler. Schlegel...with news reports saying "privately the Jets have admitted it Schlegel was a mistake"...i don't think anyone will argue with you. I think you include Thomas Jones in the draft haul and then you get to 5. I would rather the Jets bite the bullet all in one year then setting up a cycle of trading future picks.
Where are you getting this from? I read an article just recently that said that they asked for our 2 # 1s and our 3rd. I would have done that considering we wasted our 3rd round picks anyway. Keep in mind that Bush would of freed the 4th round pick we used Leon on to not have to be used on a RB.
I believe we offered that last year and they wanted a first the next year on top of that. And Bush still hasn't proven he can be a feature back.
You people are as obscene as the Giants fans calling in and complaining about why the Giants didn't trade with the Browns. You don't know what went on. Moreover, can Reggie Bush actually show up and put together a respectable YPC before we anoint him the next Gale Sayers? This guy showed that he is nothing between the tackles. Sure, he can do magical things in space, but he's a running back, not a wideout. I for one was not overwhelmed with the talent in this draft, and so I didn't mind the strategy. I believe Revis was the best bet at corner, as I was not enamored with Houston's workout rise or Hall's shoddy performance against plodder Dwayne Jarrett. The welcoming of Moss to the division reaffirmed the wisdom of this pick. I think David Harris in the middle teamed with Vilma will give us two all-pro caliber guys for years to come. I think part of this guys meteoric rise had to do with his solid intangibles and you can't put a price on that. I think we're going to have two of the smarter, more dedicated guys in the league pushing our front seven to dig deep week in and week out. I like Bender's style of play and I love his versatility. His athleticism and his mean streak is something we're sorely lacking on this line, and I wouldn't be surprised if he turned some heads this year. Chansey Stuckey in 7 was an absolute steal. This is a low-risk, high reward guy with a solid work ethic and superb quickness. I can't really be upset. I don't think there was a guy who was going to FIX our nose tackle problems. Among the UDFA's, I still see a bunch of guys who could be quality in a rotation as situational run-stuffers. I didn't see any tight ends after Olsen who would give us a significant athletic upgrade at the position, and even Olsen has his question marks. Rome wasn't built in a day. The Jets added two starters and two guys with very high ceilings. -X-
How is he to prove that he is a feature back when he has a Pro-Bowl back on the same roster? Trust me if Bush was with the Jets, he would have been our feature back whether he proved it or not. We won 10 games with the likes of Barlow, Blaylock, Houston and Washington. I think Mangini and Shotty Jr would have found a way of getting some sort of productivity out of Reggie Bush.
Whether or not he had the opportunity to, he still has not disproven his major knock heading into the NFL.
