I have noticed some disparity in opinion as far as where Bowens will be playing in the base defense, so I thought I'd start a poll on the subject to see where everyone stands on the issue... I think he will be listed on the official site and also on other reputable sites as DE ... but so is Bryan Thomas and we all know that isn't exactly true in our defense. I have also seen an argument that he won't be able to stop the run or drop into coverage... although those arguments were used against BT not too long ago. I think Bowens will be used as a situational edge-rusher and will, therefore, be playing the OLB position for us. He's not big enough to handle the 3-4 DE position. Thoughts?
He may play both, but primarily OLB. He is too small for a 3-4 end. We already picked up 3 other DEs in FA that are suited to play end.
He's an OLB. You know I'm wondering how many people understand the kind of personell that is needed for the 3-4. Just looking at his build and size it's obvious Bowens would be used as a 3-4 OLB.
In a true 3-4 he will be playing OLB. But now that many of the core players are more adept in this defense we are going to see a lot more shifting around this year, with many different hybrid defenses. Therefore, there will be occasions where Bowens is on the line, other times he will be in coverage, etc.; basically the idea is that the opposing QB doesn't know where people will be after the snap. The key to playing this scheme is to have versatile and smart players, these are the types of players that will be, or have been, brought in and drafted....
Definitely OLB. Other than his size dictating his position, my buddy, who is a Fins fan, said that he played opposite Jason Taylor in their scheme. For those of you that don't know, Taylor played OLB, switching to DE when they went to 4-3 for some snaps.
OK So in the 4-3 you wAnt 260lb linebackeRs and huge 300lb defensive lineman, but in the 3-4 the linbaCkers Are all Small, like VilMa size and the defensive linemen are all little and quick, like less that 280lbs?
Not sure if you know what you are talking about buddy. Bowens played strictly end in the 3-4 with the dolphins the 2 years they played the 3-4. Donnie Spragen was the outside linebacker opposite taylor. Please dont come here questioning others peoples knowledge of football.
my bet is he will be used in most of the alignments regardless of whether its a 3-4, 4-3, 2-5 or 5-2 with the glut of front seven players the jets have a nice opportunity to scheme the opposing offenses from several different approaches. one of the things we did in JC was line up in 2-4-5 on 2nd or 3rd and long, with a NT and DE on the line and 4 LB's. the DE and ILB would drop back in coverage while 3 linebackers and the NT would rush... there are sooo many ways to combine it as long as you have the horses. jil
4-3?....3-4? So lets say for the sake of argument that Bowens is officially listed as an OLB , and hes on the field when we line up in the 4-3 (actually that hybrid 3-4) is he now a DE? When does a DE become an OLB? (or Vice versa)
You have it backwards. In the 4-3 you can afford to have smaller Lineman and Linebackers. This is because there are more bodies for the opposing teams OLineman to block up front. In the 3-4 you need bigger bodies all around. If there were 3 DLineman that were all under 300 pounds they would get pushed around by the OLineman. Also, the backers have to be bigger because they will have to face more OLineman one on one.
A 3-4 OLB becomes a DE when we line up with 4 down lineman. Last year, BT would do this because he had experience with his hand down. This year, either BT or Bowens could be the guy.
Excatley , so the whole point of the poll is is void. He will neither be a singular DE or OLB. Hes on the small side to be a DE , But I believe by the start of TC he will be heavier than the reported 265