Yes there is!! Actually, I think having Smith as a 3rd QB is fine and save the Extra Roster spot for where we need it...
clemens is an unknown commodity at this point. aside from being a few years younger, he has nothing on carr up to this point. i really dont get how ppl are loyal to a backup... id rather they put smith in the 3rd spot over signing tui-yaddayaddayadda
LOL whatever. Some don't know the difference between the real world and Madden. Carr could go to a number of teams where he would easily be the favorite to start. But no, he's going to come here, and sit behind Pennington for a year, and then hope he can become a starter again in the 7th year of his career.
well according to that neither does schaub..... the one thing both schaub and clemens have on carr is that they both havent failed (yet)....for not just one year, but 5 years
carr is one of my favorite qbs. I think he would be a pro bowl qb if he were to sign with the Jets or any other good team. Maybe we will sign him and trade chad on draft day. Maybe or maybe not.
why would any team trade for the only qb in the league that canot throw 10 yd out and is injury prone .... what gm would do that ???
I challenge you to explain how Carr has "failed" as a QB with the Texans. He was put behind one of the worst Olines in history, with barely any running game for most of the time, one WR to throw to, a crappy D, and was somehow expected to carry these guys to a Super Bowl NOW by the fans/media in Texas.
he failed b/c the team is 24-56 over that period of time... arguments can be made for or against him....joey harrington is an example of a guy with nothing but potential who failed in detroit and in miami... steve young and vinny switched it up for success along with others... jake plummer took the cardinals to the playoffs...the only time they've ever been and had a better record and rating in denver than elway, but no one on here brings him up...he even is 1-0 against the pats in the playoffs...and everyone hates his guts. the reason it doesnt matter is b/c we have a qb that works...and potential that hasnt flopped lined up to follow send him to oakland...or detroit...or kc somewhere with doubt around the position this isnt last year anymore
I can't believe someone you are groveling about the 3rd string QB. Yes, we need a 3rd string QB because of Chad's shoulder. If the Jets liked Brad Smith's throwing ability don't you think they would have had designed a trick play or two for him? You can't expect Brad Smith to learn a totally new position and how to be an NFL QB at the same time.
I don't particularly care for either Carr or Tui. Both suck, but I guess Tui comes at a cheaper price to fill in the 3rd string spot. I find that a lot of people tend to overrate Carr, though. Yeah, you can pin all those sacks and picks due to poor O-Line play, but if you actually watched him play a few times, you'd quickly realize a lot of it is his own fault. He makes stupid decision regardless if defenders are in his face. Plus, he also holds on to the ball way too long...a lot of sacks come from him just being indecisive. There's no question he had a crappy supporting cast (although Andre Johnson is a damn good WR to throw to), but a good chunk of his lack of success is his own fault too. Tui probably isn't much better, but it seems like he'll at least be cheaper. If either of them had to start for us, we'd be in trouble either way.
uh, this has nothing to do with Madden, it has everything in the world to do with getting in a better, more physically gifted, YOUNG QB. I know there are plenty of ppl here who, now that Chad managed to play 16 games this past season, have forgot about how prone to injury our "darling" QB is. Clemens isnt ready (by all acounts not even beating out Ramsey) to lead any team as of yet. Signing whatever that samoan guys name is brings us much less...i have no doubt that by the end of the regular season next year our backup will have started at least 1 game. i know the Cards seem hapless, but even they had some guys that played at a high level when Plummer was there. Theres no comparing any team to how bad the Texans have been consistantly. if you look at the game logs from last year, you will see that no matter how well Carr played, the rest of the team wasn't up to the task. bad management, bad defense, and a disturbingly bad O line can have that effect. I'm not crowning Carr anything other than a guy thats DEF worth taking a shot on. I agree with the fact that not all of the 249 sacks in 5 years years wasn't all the offensive line...but there isn't anyway I can look at that number and blame Carr for even a third of those, let alone call him a bad decision maker. when youre under fire constantly, be it from 300 lb lineman, 250 lb LBs, or the media raking you over the coals it would be easy to give up, call it quits. and he didn't. he took a beating on and off the field. if anyone asked...."if Carr was so bad, and he was so 'at fault' why did Kubiak stick with him"? i think the aswer is clear, he knew it wasn't all to be laid at this kids feet. he had baaaad luck getting drafted by Houston. even if he doesn't come here (which, we all know he won't) I will root for him to do well (unless he's a phish). He has all the talent in the world, and has shown his toughness over the last 5 years. I'd take him over Chad. Don't get me wrong, I don't dislike Pennington, but he doesn't have the physical gifts you need to have from an elite QB. Chads best will still have him at best among the second teir of QBs in the NFL. It's not Chads fault he gets hurt, and has only 1 full season under his belt as a starter...shit happens. At some point though, as unfortunate as it is, every Jets fan will have to face the fact that Chads not taking us to the SB....(Doug Brien can blow me...) his best is still second best. with a chance to really improve ourselves at the QB position, retaining Carrs services will take us a lot further.
Well, he's a tough one, I'll give him that. I still don't think he's any good though. Oddly enough, I've seen a good share of Texans games, and Carr is hardly impressive. Even when he's NOT under pressure, it's easy to spot him making bone headed decisions, holding on to the ball too long, and basically throwing an inaccurate pass. I believe many fans tend to overrate "physical attributes" and completely disregard the cerebral aspect of being a QB. That said, I wouldn't have really cared if the Jets signed Carr anyway. Like I mentioned before, if the Jets had to start either Carr or Tui, we'd probably be out of the playoffs anyway, so it wouldn't matter who's back there at QB. I'm not exactly a raving Chad fanatic, but I sure as hell would take him over Carr. Chad may not be elite, but he's worlds better than what we could have in Carr. Chad may not have the physical gifts, but Carr just doesn't seem to have all the other essential tools to being a QB other than "throwing it deep". I don't dislike Carr, but if you've seen him play a couple games, you'd understand why even Texans fans have soured on him. What good is throwing the ball deep when it's off target or possibly landing in a defender's hand? I'd rather have a QB who knows how to run an offense and make smart decisions.
over the past few years ive gotten a chance to see a fair amount of texan games (gotta love the sunday ticket). while i agree he doesnt have the brains that chad has (how many QBs do though?) with proper protection/running game/coaching he could do much better. im sure he could hold on to the ball too long...but i do remember watching a game last year where he either threw it away, got sacked, or had to force the ball into johnson. he really had no help on the field with the exception of andre johnson. i guess it just comes down to opinion...and we can def agree to not see eye to eye on this. as far as the fans souring on him...he was the franchises face...a losing franchise. but if those fans thought that losing was carrs fault, they will have to find a new whipping boy now. i cant wait to see how houston reacts when they go 6-10 again this year, and carr isnt there. maybe then they will start to lay blame at the feet of those who deserve it....but knowing how fans are, i doubt it. wherever he ends up ill end up pulling for the guy. he seems like a good enough joe...i mean, in 5 years i cant remember him getting into trouble, pointing fingers, or being any kind of a disruption. he took responsibility for that team. unfortunately, unless hes able to turn things around with his next team, that might be what hes remembered for...atough QB who had the talent but never did anything with it. that would be a shame.
None of that has anything to do with my point, which is this isn't Madden, you can't just sign anyone you want. There is no way Carr would want to come here, when there are much better situations available for him.
If I were Carr I would sign with: Baltimore Cleveland Jacksonville Kansas City Minnesota Tampa Bay Because McNair and Green are about to retire and the other teams aren't sure about the young guys they got. I would consider these teams as well: N.Y. Giants Washington Chicago Green Bay Seattle Atlanta
