Patriots sign Donte' Stallworth...merged

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  1. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    So b/c they have 2 1str d picks that means they should throw away a 2nd rd pick?

    Welkeer can return punts and kicks to the tune of 22 yds a KR and 9 yds a PR- that is NOT good! Brown as a PR from '98-'03 had 5 of the 6 years above10 yds a return- he's NOT Troy Brown.
     
  2. Attackett

    Attackett Well-Known Member

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    The Eagles will definetly be missing him, they have noone else on there roster who scares opposing Ds. Every Eagles fan I know wanted him back.
     
  3. jetsman22

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    Answer me this..... Dion Branch walked for 13 million gauranteed. They picked up Stalworth for a little less then 12 million and got a first round pick for Dion. Stallworth was a great talent before he played with brady. You dont think this could be one hell of an addition? Im sorry buy playing in 44 games and missing 4 over the last four seasons is not injury prone.

    Btw you know you where wrong about the deal right? The deal is a one year deal that gives the pats the ability to cut ties with him at no loss if they do not like his production over the first year. It also gives them the ability to extend him for a good prive if hr turns out to perform to what would make them extend him for the full deal.... They got him for peanuts.

    http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2794615
     
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  4. PatsRule

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    Now he is a guy that can stretch the field...Look at it this way they could of kept Branch he got 36 million,instead the get Stallworth who in my opinion has the potential to be better and they get a #1 pick to boot.

    Does this move make NE a more dangerous team ? yes and finally Brady has a legitimate deep threat unlike Caldwell and Gaffney who Brady clearly made better than they were.I can't wait for next season with all these moves and BB's ability to get the most out of nothing,it will be a fun year..
     
  5. TonyIommi

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    Patriots sign Stallworth

    That Jets front office better get moving. The gap seems to be widening instead of shrinking. WTF are they waiting for? Spend some money.

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  6. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    The skins haven't drafted well?

    Since '99 they have drafted:

    Champ Bailey, Jon Jansen, Lavar Arrinton, Chris Samuels, Fred Smoot, Darnerian McCants, Ladell Betts, Derrick Dockery, Sean taylor, Chris Cooley, jason campbell, ... Let's not act like they are the mid-late 80s Jets in terms of the draft.

    Please explain to me how NE got an "A: for 2005?

    1 1 32 32 Logan Mankins G Fresno State
    2 3 20 84 Ellis Hobbs DB Iowa State
    3 3 36 100 Nick Kaczur G Toledo
    4 4 32 133 James Sanders DB Fresno State
    5 5 34 170 Ryan Claridge LB Nevada-Las Vegas
    6 7 16 230 Matt Cassel QB USC
    7 7 41 255 Andy Stokes TE William Penn

    2004?

    2004 1 1 21 21 Vince Wilfork DT Miami (FL)
    2 1 32 32 Ben Watson TE Georgia
    3 2 31 63 Marquise Hill DE Louisiana State
    4 3 32 95 Guss Scott DB Florida
    5 4 17 113 Dexter Reid DB North Carolina
    6 4 32 128 Cedric Cobbs RB Arkansas
    7 5 32 164 P.K. Sam WR Florida State

    2001?

    1 1 6 6 Richard Seymour DT Georgia
    2 2 17 48 Matt Light T Purdue
    3 3 24 86 Brock Williams DB Notre Dame
    4 4 1 96 Kenyatta Jones T South Florida
    5 4 24 119 Jabari Holloway TE Notre Dame
    6 5 32 163 Hakim Akbar DB Washington
    7 6 17 180 Arther Love TE South Carolina State
    8 6 37 200 Leonard Myers DB Miami (FL)
    9 7 16 216 Owen Pochman K Brigham Young
    10 7 39 239 T.J. Turner LB Michigan State

    In '01 they got seymour and light which was great but nothing else, in '04 wilfork was great, Watson ok and nothing else, in '05 mankins and Hobss are ok and nothing else. How are these "A's"?
     
  7. jetsman22

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    We agreed to disagree on Welker. I do not think Craft should have tossed in the 7th rounder poisen pill or not. Only thing that makes that trade somewhat livable is that they still have nine picks. The 2nd rounder was mandatory since he was a rfa. With there shitty 2nd round wr choices I guess they went after someone they think they can be sure off. I agree, out of all there moves that one was shaky. But, if he turns out to be a very good player for them ala Troy Brown I would think most would overlook that.


    The Stallworth deal was a very good one. The pats have the ability to nix the deal after one year. You where wrong about this deal... It is a one year deal that gives the pats the ability to axe him if he does not perform to there standards. The deal also alows them to extyend him for a good price for the full 6 years if he exels. They have all the power and protection.

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  8. JetFanInPA

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    Because spending money on free agents = championships :rolleyes:
     
  9. asscue35

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    Who says its throwing away a pick when you sign a player you want?In case you are not getting my point, you get the player you want by giving away your second round choice and if you so desire, with your 9 draft choices you can get back into the second rounder and get whoever you want.You cans can debate the decision totrade a 2nd rounder for Welker , lets see how it plays out, but dont forget we did worse than that by trading a 4th for Barlow.
     
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    I have the link stored somewhere, I have to go.... I will post it for you when I get back.
     
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    Big spending doesn't pay in free agency

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  12. TonyIommi

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    No, Skins prove that. Adding quality football players wins championships. Other then Jones, who IMO will not work out, what have the Jets done to close the talent gap? with that schedule and the current roster they are looking at 8-8.
     
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    Who knows what Stallworth will do in New England. I do know that he's inconsistant however. He's a deep threat, but what else does he bring to the table. I wouldn't be surprised to see W. Welker end up being the more consistant WR of the two....

    Stallworth has bum hamstrings. He's been on the "questionable" injury report list his entire career it seems. He should be a solid addition in New England, but a risky one at that. You can say he's only missed 4 games, but anyone who follows football, or plays fantasy knows how inconsistant Stallworth is. He's one of those enigma WR's who you can never really figure out...

    Like I said, Although Stallworth is a solid deep threat, I wouldn't be surprised to see Welker become Brady's #1 target by seasons end....
     
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    They owed the 2 rounder no matter what... Since welker was a fa. Look who they picked up with previos second rounders. Look at Johnson and Jackson. Krast tossed in the seventh rounder to smooth things over for the poisen pill deal they had going on. I agree with what you said. They have 9 reamaining picks afte the welker trade, Including 2 first rounders. They will have a good draft to back up there fa moves. Which all made sense if you actually look at them and what they needed asap.

    I love how teams blame the market on the pats. What would you like them to do not fill holes since guys are starting to get money. Only going to get worse when the cap increases again. Not to mention, they are a established sb caliber team now. They have a set core..... Graham just got 15 mill bucks over 5 years in g money from Denver for Christs sakes!
     
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    Why do you think Jones isn't going to work out? Hes a tough runner who breaks alot of tackles. Perfect for the AFC East.
     
  16. Attackett

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    I could agree that the Pats have widen the talent gap on us but how can you make such a blanket statement like, "other than Jones, who IMO won't work out"? How do you justify that Jones, who is a proven top of the line RB in the prime of his career won't work out but signing Stallworth who has alot of talent but has been a career underachiever will?
     
  17. jetsman22

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    The pats draft well to back up Fa moves. You seem to forget where you got this philosophy you have from. The pats have 9 picks and 2 first rounder. They also have 9 million left in cap space after all these moves and tenduring there entire roster.

    Unless you think the pats are just going to forget how to draft he is right.


    In 2001 they had 24 free agents signed and no cap money btw.
     
  18. TonyIommi

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    Like adding Rodney Harrison didn't help the pats win 2 SB's.
     
  19. Murrell2878

    Murrell2878 Lets go JETS!
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    Jones won't work out but Stallworth is a great signing? :breakdance: Wow
     
  20. TonyIommi

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    The Bears let him go for the dif between their pick and the Jets' in the 2nd round. In the playoffs, did you see much of him? Lovie didn't have faith in him. I might be wrong but it's my opinion. I write this as a fan that wants to see the AFC East be as competitive as possible. I want death matches back.
     

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