28 mil under the cap and this team is gonna take a step back? Please, this team will improve to atleast a 12 win team next yr.
it's going to take ALOT for us to continue to make our push forward to becoming an elite team. We have money, but will we really make good use of it to bring in enough impact players to continue to be successful?? My thoughts are one year won't be enough time, and we won't be more successful (in terms of # of wins) then last year.
Now Rob, we know that you are "Most Optimistic," but this is how you also got some of those "Least Knowledgeable" votes. Winston's point is 100% on target - the Jets had very few injuries and a relatively easy schedule, and you can't anticipate both of those being the case next year. The Bills have much more room under the cap than do the Jets (more than $11M more), and the Pats are similar (about $1.5M less). The Jets also play Cleveland, Cincinnati, and Tennessee, all of whom have more cap room right now than do the Jets, so that's immediately about half of the schedule where the Jets don't have any sort of cap advantage as of now. All of this is irrelevant anyway - nobody has signed any free agents yet (their own or another team's), and of course the draft is still months away. To predict at least 12 wins right now is IMO just throwing out a number to make a point, and cannot be taken seriously at all.
You'd be surprised at how that cap space is gonna be spent if I read the Jets right. They're going to do the Philly thing and sign a few second tier free agents and maintain the cap in a workable condition moving forward. They're also likely to do the New England thing and trade one of their seconds for a future pick. Now throw in a somewhat tougher schedule and the fact that they will still be rebuilding on offense and defense next season and I'd say 7 to 9 wins is a real possibility. Which would of course be a step back from this year and a step forward into a better future if they actually get a few more positions solidified.
7 to 9 wins?? We are coming off a 10 win season. As long as they stay healthy next year, the jets are only a few positions away from being an elite team. Sign some run blockers, get some pass rushers, and a shut down corner and we are solid. This team will IMPROVE not suddenly get worse. 12 win season at the LEAST. I'm being realistic here, not optimistic. A 10 win team, with the right draft and some good FA signings, can be brought over the top the following season. 28 mil under the cap, only 1 starting UFA (clement) on the team, and 3 day 1 picks.
Win the SB & you will see the respect we get. Who cares about rating what we should be caring about is winning the VL trophy not ratings
we can get better, of our losses, 2 were to superbowl teams, and 1 was to the pats who made the afc champ game
Sorry, but this is anything but realistic. First of all, you just throw in "As long as they stay healthy next year," when that's a big part of the point - they did stay healthy this year, but who is to say they will next year. Also, you seem to assume that it is easy to "sign some run blockers, get some pass rushers, and a shut down corner" - if it was that easy, everyone would do it. Finally, the majority of 10 win teams get worse the next year, not better. For example, from 2000-2005 there were 23 teams that ended up with exactly 10 wins. Here is the distribution of wins they got the following year: 4 wins - 17%; 5 wins - 4%; 6 wins - 13%; 7 wins - 13%; 8 wins - 0%; 9 wins - 22%; 10 wins - 9%; 11 wins - 4%; 12 wins - 9%; 13 wins - 4%; 14 wins - 4%. Almost half of the teams in this century who won 10 games had a record below .500 the following year, and fewer than one-quarter had a better record the following year. Only 4 out of 23 had 12 or more wins the following year, so predicting that for the Jets definitely starts you off well for 2007 "Most Optimistic" poster. This is exactly what would be expected. It's called regression to the mean. Teams that had an above-average record in a given year probably had some good luck in getting it, and are unlikely to get that luck again, so their record tends to be worse the following year, just because of random fluctuation. Similarly, teams that had a below-average record in a given year probably had some bad luck getting it, and their record tends to be better the next year, just because of random fluctuation. You see this pattern over and over in every kind of situation.
no one seems to take into account that the jets had a really weak schedule last year, the schedule for next year looks a whole lot tougher.
You forget that we were one of the worst teams in the league the year prior to this. It's like you're saying its easy to go from 4 wins to 10 but impossible to go from 10 to 7-8. Good run blockers, pash rushers, and shut down corners don't grow on trees. There are some good free agents out there, but it dosent mean we're going to throw big money at them to play here. With a tougher schedule, 10-11 wins would be great. A WC win and a good playoff match up and who knows..
Everyone seems to forget we did so well last year flying under the radar. Let them think we're a top 15 team for all I care. It takes the target off your back...
The Jets had a 4 win season in 05 due to injuries. As long as they stay healthy again, they will improve. The jets will most likely draft a big DT and a DE on day 1 in the draft. I also expect them to make a run at Asante Samuel or Nate Clements. Is the schedule tougher? Maybe as of right now, so many things can change in a season. Next year is the year the jets finally get the AFCE title back.
Up until the second quarter of the season, I found it hard to believe that we were going to finish with better than 5 wins, regardless of schedule or injuries. It's nice to play the odds on predictions every year, but I think to assume that we will take a GIANT step back is pushing it. Our schedule could end up being just as easy next season. But I do think we'll take a step back because teams will have footage of the Jets' plays and coaching tendencies now.
Okay, you're assuming that we just fuddle around in neutral in the off-season and don't do anything. And that ManBaum will not improve after their rookie seasons as coach/GM, and that the experience in the O-Line wont help. I think we'll be pleasantly surprised by the O-Line. It's not easy to go from playing 11 or 12 games in college with 2 byes (1 huge one if you get a bowl) and then come out and play 17 like the Jets did with only one bye. They'll be used to the rigorous NFL season by next year. Not only will the O-Line be improved, the entire defense is entering their 2nd year in the 3-4, and we saw how much better they were in the 2nd half of the season. With the right offseason moves, and the tough camp and attitude that came with it last year, I think we'll make a push towards 10-11 wins. Maybe we won't have the same injury luck, but it's ridiculous to say that Rob's not taking into account the injury and schedule factor when you're hypothesizing just as much as he is. It may be a tough schedule, and it looks tough right now. But who isn't looking at their next years' schedule at the newly resurgent Jets saying: "That games gonna be tough." ? Just like most of us are now.
Staying healthy all year with the current talent base would probably lead to 9 or 10 wins next season. The idea that you have that given the absence of bad luck a team will invariably improve is not correct. Given the absence of bad luck a good team will tend to settle back towards the mean and a bad team will approach it from below. For the Jets to improve their record over last season they are going to need to get MUCH better than they were this season. That means not only filling some of the holes that were apparent to us on the lines and in the offensive backfield but also upgrading a few positions where the holes were not as obvious. Given the absence of notable improvements in talent the Jets will settle back towards 8 wins and possibly below. And if they get bad luck they'll definitely settle at 8 wins or below.
