Well...From my view. Roy Williams is a horrible cover safety, Pat Watkins was highly overrated and wasn't NFL ready, Keith Davis is a special teamer at best... Dallas' safties were horrible...Now the Jets have better safties, and you could argue he had some bad ones to work with, but that's what makes a coach to me, being able to coach marginal players into productive starters.
True, but you can't coach speed .. Roy Williams is lethal in the box, but he's too slow in coverage Just to be fair, Ecko
[QUOTE Dallas' safties were horrible...Now the Jets have better safties, and you could argue he had some bad ones to work with, but that's what makes a coach to me, being able to coach marginal players into productive starters.[/QUOTE] Look at Tom Coughlin. Turned around Mark Brunell and shit the bed with Eli. And how can you say Pat Watkins is overrated. He is a rookie. This reminds me of when you called Derick Pagel an all-pro.
isnt that the guy parcells pushed on the sidelines for arguing a call? i dont want anymore of that after that herm/bishop harris incident.
And for a rookie, he was raved and touted as this "Freak" of a Safety who would dominant at Free Safety. Which, clearly he didn't, to the point where he was inactive after starting a few games. I say he's overrated in that sense, for all of the hype and drooling on Watkins he turned out to be nothing but... Again, I do not know this guy, so i'm not going to act as if I do. But just from mere perception on Dallas' safety play on both positions, they were atrocious and clearly the weakest part of the Dallas defense without a question.
Williams has alway been a liability in coverage but for the 15 yards in front of him he plays like Urlacher. and Watkins was a rookie that has alot to do with it Ecko, he is a Freak. hes just under 6 ft 6. which with all the running he does at that height its hard for him to really build his frame. which sometimes makes him look stiff in coverage. hes got the athleticism to play sideline to sideline and chase down wide recievers, but he fails to adjust sometimes in coverage. he has extremely quick feet, but when hes not over his feet in movement it leads to those problems in his coverage game. other than that he has the athleticism to shut down TE's and reads passes directed at him pretty well. id wait some time before i label him a dissappointment.
i got caught in response to ecko to even respond to the hire. yeah, I dont like this hire that much. granted, he hasnt had any amazing cover players to work with, but they didnt seem too well coached. first off he was asst at ole miss and they made it sound like it was his team. ole miss to 7-6 :rofl:
Jets add three new coaches Coaching news January 30 The Jets have filled three spots on their coaching roster. Mike MacIntyre, a Dallas assistant the past four seasons who coached the Cowboys’ safeties in 2006, is the Jets’ new defensive backs coach. He replaces Corwin Brown, who is now Notre Dame’s defensive coordinator. Bill Parcells must have given his former assistant, Eric Mangini, a really good recommendation. Jerome Henderson, the Jets director of player development, will now also have the additional duties of assistant DB coach. And Sal Alosi returns to the Jets as the strength and conditioning coach, replacing Markus Paul, who was named today as the Giants’ assistant strength and conditioning coach. Alosi served as the Falcons strength and conditioning coach in 2006 but was the Jets assistant director of physical development in 2005 and the team’s assistant strength and conditioning coachh in 2003-04, working for Herm Edwards. Interestingly, the Giants put out a press release today in which they mentioned Paul’s hiring near the bottom. The Jets, of course, had not publicized the fact that they had let Paul go so thanks to the crosstown rivals for breaking some news on this beat.
I'm not saying he's a disappointment, if he doesn't pan out it doesn't matter, he was a 2nd day pick, so it isn't threatening. My gripe is that Watkins was so highly touted of being this next great safety, and he was not even close to that, in coverage, and missing tackles. He can be a good safety, but the hype he got was so undeserving of a 2nd day rookie, it was as if he was supposed to be Sean Taylor.
The release of Markus Paul is a bit of a surprise to me considering how injury free we seemed to be last year, and also his relationship with Mangini in NE. Interesting....
No idea why so many coaches are leaving or not resigned. Paul is mystifying thought they worked well together but probably just a personality clash. WHo knows. MacIntyre is a need hiring, somewhat similar to drafting a need over the BPA. It is somewhat late to be hiring coaches and he was probably the lowest hanging fruit. He also has the luxury of being somewhat familiar to the 3-4 defense. But he sure as shit does not make my toes tingle. LOL here is the first evidence of Parcells being a consultant. Anyway, Henderson was a part of the secondary coaching last year. One of the blogs basically said he was always on the field helping Corwin Brown. So at least 1/2 half of that is intact. I read where Bryan Cox may leave as well. It said he may leave or the Jets may give him araise. I can not remember............. As the coaching world turns. One other thought about the coaches. Mangini may possibly be letting guys go that are not putting in the hours. From what I read he is always at Hofstra like 14-20 hours a day/7 a week. Maybe he demands that of his assistants and the older guys or those with families are unwilling........... Anyway, that is just pure conjecture but I thought I would throw that out.
