I don’t see Moore declaring. Obviously I don’t know him personally but his career trajectory indicates patience. He switched to go to UCLA from Oregon based on coaching changes as a high school senior. Had a disastrous freshman year and scored to go to Oregon after all. He sat a year there behind Gabriel and waited for his chance to start after learning for a year. He has no reason to rush to the league.
only reason he might is because he could be a top 5 pick even without the experience btw I saw you mocked Concepcion to us. My god what a player. Hell yeah, good call
I know this is about drafting a QB on he 2026 draft, but in parallel there is smoke building that the Jets might try to trade for Mac Jones as a near term plug and work developing a flyer later in the draft. He certainly is head and shoulders an improvement over JF. Might grow to really like that idea.
Mendoza Is the only QB I would consider in next years draft, even then, I'd probably pass. He throws a pretty ball though, and seems to read defenses well for a college QB, I think he holds the ball too long. Now I have trauma after seeing how long Fields holds the damn ball post snap. sigh
And you just summed up the entire problem. "Because he could be a top 5 pick even without the experience." The fact that these SUPPOSED professional football people can't seem to CONTROL themselves when the draft rolls around and NOT draft someone who shouldn't BE in the top 5! Yeah, top 5 because the entire position group is trash this year so, let's go ahead and be morons and draft a kid nowhere near draftable at that spot. Should be a law against it because it ruins everything. Ruins the player, the franchise and, downstream, the fans.
He did great his first year under a good OC as well, till Patricia took over in year two. If you don’t have a good QB developer, we sure as hell should get one first, no matter who comes in. That is our number one problem and has been forever.
Decided to look at average time to throw for some of the top prospects discussed here that might (or might not) declare. Moore - 2.61 Mendoza - 2.64 Simpson - 2.95 Sellers - 3.24 For comparison - Justin Fields draft class Justin Fields - 3.11 Zach Wilson - 2.83 Mac Jones - 2.51 Trevor Lawrence - 2.38 Also, because of the NE game and Maye kicking ass, decided to look at Drake Maye's class Bo Nix - 2.44 Penix - 2.68 Maye - 2.79 McCarhty - 2.85 Jayden Daniels - 2.94 (EDIT: forgot to add him) Caleb Williams - 3.19 We have to factor in the scrambling ability, but Mendoza seems to be in similar range as other pocket passers who went 1st round. A little better than Penix and Maye. He is definitely much better than Fields was. Simpson is the one who is questionable there, 2.95 seems a lot for a pure pocket passer. Also, Simpson is old and short. Turning 24 next year. Listed 6-2, but I would not be surprised if he comes in as 6-1. And historically in the NFL height does matter. Very few QBs under 6-2 had much success. I've only started watching him, but so far I am not sure if I want to spend a top 1st round pick on him. This might be 1 QB (Mendoza) draft, if Moore stays. Depending on where we are in the draft we may not even be in position to get him. This kinda sucks...
I think he is not the long term answer but has a relatively high "floor" compared to other guys likely to be available. Don't expect similar production to this year though. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Ok, look. I need you folks to stop talking about these kids, especially at the QB position, as OLD. 24 is NOT old. In fact, as shitty as the Jets QB situation has been, I'll TAKE a solid FIVE years of production over the alternative. If a 24 year old can come in and be "up to speed" by 28/29 I'll take it! With the way that position is protected and the health sciences what they are most of these guys get to at least 40, or close to it. Please, do not take a guy off the table because he's, *gasp* a whole twenty four years old!
I understand what you are saying but these older college players look better because of their age/experience and not because they are good This Tyler Shough for example sucked his whole college career until his super, super, senior season. He was a grown man like 25 years old playing against 19 year olds. He’s not going to be good in the NFL
Indeed. But I do expect him to complete passes and see open receivers. Something I’m dying to see with this team even behind a great running game.
Increasingly think Mendoza is the guy this class. It's a weak class overall but it seems pretty clear to me that he's the best of the lot. He has some issues like arm strength, but there's a lot to like otherwise. Good ball placement, good decision making, tall enough where he doesn't have to be especially mobile. I can envision him running Engstrand's offense well. I'm mostly torn on whether we should try to get Mendoza or pass on a round 1 QB entirely.
About where I am too. Mendoza is head and shoulders the best prospect on the board. But is he a good prospect? He probably has a pretty high floor because he’s a good decision maker and takes care of the ball. I don’t know if he’s worth the pick though. I referenced Kurtis Rourke several times because he did the same shit in the same offense as Mendoza and was a transfer with a decent CFB resume coming in. I don’t know if he even got invited to a NFL camp..
The best QB in the league this year is Sam Darnold (and it's not even close - he's averaging 10 yards an attempt!), which just means ... let's be realistic ... we could draft Joe Montana and we'd just fuck it up. The best we can hope for is that a league-average veteran gets released and we can pick him up. Well, that's not entirely true, the best we could hope for would be that a HOF QB would already be on our roster and want to play here ... but as we've demonstrated recently, we'd just fuck that up too.
