The Official CS bitching thread is here!

Discussion in 'New York Jets' started by Cman69, Sep 8, 2025.

  1. REVISion

    REVISion Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 20, 2011
    Messages:
    5,703
    Likes Received:
    9,920
    I'm not saying Engstrand is a better OC than MLF was. I just think Engstrand is the least of our worries on the coaching side right now.

    As for why they haven't permanently benched fields - who knows. Maybe they actually are trying to tank.
     
  2. mezzavo

    mezzavo Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 28, 2002
    Messages:
    6,102
    Likes Received:
    2,754
    This really is about all we have left at this point. If Glenn wants to actually BE a HC then his eye MUST be on the future. He needs to know what every single guy on his roster is worth. Practice squad included. This season is gone, he has his answer on Fields and they have resources for the next 2 years. He has to determine if it's a total tear down or if he has some serviceable guys. I've been as hard on him as anyone but I don't see any scenario he's not here next year. This IS Woody Johnson who is running this ship so you can write that down. Seeing as that's the case, I'm on your page. He's got to play everybody! Should be very enlightening.
     
    Cman69 and Borat like this.
  3. Borat

    Borat Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 20, 2018
    Messages:
    6,769
    Likes Received:
    9,912
    I really wanted Daboll when we got Bob. He has mixed results. As an OC he was good in Buffalo and is credited with the development of Allen, fairly or not. He then comes to the Giants, and Jones has a really good year under him. They go on to the play-offs and even win a game. Offense was #15 ranked. Daboll wins COY. He then goes on for two unsuccessful years, where he can't quite get production from Daniel Jones, the Giants are not a good team. Offense 30 and 31 ranked. This year he is credited with drafting and developing Dart, but the team blew a bunch of leads and have shitty record. Offense ranked 24, but 14 in yards. So, definitely a mixed record. Now Kafka takes over. Who knows he may end up getting fired too and could be a decent OC candidate. McDaniels will likely be fired also.

    This point is there might be some pretty decent OC choices available. That's why I really want to evaluate Tanner the rest of the way, where we do not make an excuse that it is all Fields' fault for offense looking like shit, so we cannot evaluate anything. AG is not going away, but I don't think his coordinators are anywhere near as safe. Campbell fired his OC after the 1st year. We really need to see what we've got in Tanner the rest of the way.

    Another interesting thing, MILF might end up as possible HC candidate to the Giants, according to Connor Hughes. That's the one that seemingly got away when it comes to offensive coaches.
     
    Cman69 likes this.
  4. BroadwayAaron

    BroadwayAaron Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 6, 2008
    Messages:
    16,942
    Likes Received:
    22,025
    Engstrand is absolutely going to be safe. Not even worth thinking about or comparing it to the Lions moving on from Anthony Lynn. Campbell took over playcalling duties and had no plans to give them back so they moved on. Again, by all accounts outside of god awful QB play, Engstrand is doing fine.
     
  5. Borat

    Borat Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 20, 2018
    Messages:
    6,769
    Likes Received:
    9,912
    What are these "all accounts"? I already showed issues beyond just QB play, there is good and bad both. We need to see more. We #25 on offense, that is not good by all accounts. Change the QB if he is the problem and let Tanner develop and evaluate him. I don't see him as being absolutely safe if another QB comes in and the offense continues to suck. I HOPE he is good and we keep him, but I need to see more. And AG should want to see more.
     
    NOVAJET likes this.
  6. statjeff22

    statjeff22 2008 Green Guy "Most Knowledgeable" Award Winner

    Joined:
    Jun 4, 2005
    Messages:
    27,275
    Likes Received:
    7,200
  7. BroadwayAaron

    BroadwayAaron Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 6, 2008
    Messages:
    16,942
    Likes Received:
    22,025
    I really don’t get why people care about this. The media sucks. They’ll treat people like shit and then cry when someone does it back. Maybe I’m just jaded because I worked/work in sports and have seen the hyenas operate but I can’t bring myself to care. We know he’s hurt. We know he’s out 3-4 weeks.
     
    mezzavo likes this.
  8. NOVAJET

    NOVAJET "2020 TGG Fantasy Football Champ"

    Joined:
    Jun 2, 2003
    Messages:
    3,723
    Likes Received:
    3,006
    He's been doing it all year, noone likes the media but honestly they have been incredibly fair to Glenn. The problem isn't the message it's how he delivers it, he is very combative for really no reason at all except that he's on a power trip. They have been treating him with gloved hands but if he keeps it up the media will turn on him.
     
    statjeff22 and Jets79 like this.
  9. BroadwayAaron

    BroadwayAaron Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 6, 2008
    Messages:
    16,942
    Likes Received:
    22,025
    I dunno. I feel the exact same way with the Knicks so it’s not even a Jets or Jets media kind of thing. Knicks fans and beat writers complain nonstop that Leon Rose doesn’t speak to the media. Who could possibly care? When is the last time we got a piece of groundbreaking information or even a genuine opinion in a press conference? The only thing they are good for is to find out who is starting and who is injured. It’s very obvious that he’s never going to say who is starting. We know who is injured, what the injury is and how long they will be out.

    Sure maybe the delivery sucks but could you imagine if coaches, players, etc ran to the Internet to complain every time a writer said something douchey?
     
  10. Ralebird

    Ralebird Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 25, 2012
    Messages:
    15,641
    Likes Received:
    9,735
    Yeah, probably - but the only reason we know he's hurt is because one reporter did his job and told us about it. What does he get for that? Badmouthed by the head coach. It's news that i deserve to find out about as a fan and if no one at the team sees fit to tell us who will? The media has a job to do and here 95% of it has failed badly. As the one guy who spoke up at the press conference told Glenn "We want to hear it from you!"

    People and organizations trying to keep bad news under wraps and trying to punish reporters who speak up make our lives worse, not better.
     
  11. NOVAJET

    NOVAJET "2020 TGG Fantasy Football Champ"

    Joined:
    Jun 2, 2003
    Messages:
    3,723
    Likes Received:
    3,006
    It was on ESPN and everywhere else, it's an unneeded distraction. If it was normal or even remotely odd it wouldn't be national news but it's downright strange and not a distraction we need. He is channeling his inner Parcells at 2-7.
     
  12. Jonathan_Vilma

    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2004
    Messages:
    34,875
    Likes Received:
    34,306
    Eh I wouldn’t read too much into this guys. Sirianni was like this a lot in the beginning too although you get a bit more of a pass when you’re succeeding obviously.

    I think Glenn is a lot smarter than given credit here. He’s probably trying to set a precedent with reporters. Maybe he or someone gave Cimini the info confidentially and asked him not to report it yet?

    The Jets regimes have a putrid track history with the media and leaks and embarrassment especially lately. It’s not impossible that they’re trying to get that under control.

    A couple examples I can remember off the top of my head.
    • The Benigno/Saleh text saga
    • The Russini hit piece on private Brick/Woody conversations about Tony Adams & Madden ratings
    • Mike Whire T-shirt gate.
     
    abyzmul likes this.
  13. BroadwayAaron

    BroadwayAaron Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 6, 2008
    Messages:
    16,942
    Likes Received:
    22,025
    This. Glenn‘s behaviors are direct result of trying to establish a culture that minimizes leaks and information from coming anywhere other than in house. I’m pretty sure I remember him saying at the very beginning that any information about injuries will come from the team. This clearly didn’t, so it’s maybe a little bit of a fuck you for leaking news before the team got a chance to talk about it. I understand they are just doing their jobs and I don’t even blame them a single bit for reporting the news they got unless someone told them not to. But I really don’t think anybody said that. I think Glenn wants to establish a way to do things,the media went against that, now he treats them like shit.

    and I can’t reiterate enough how much my past experience makes me not care about the way beat riders are treated.
     
    #653 BroadwayAaron, Nov 12, 2025 at 8:41 AM
    Last edited: Nov 12, 2025 at 8:50 AM
  14. JetFanInPA

    JetFanInPA Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 25, 2003
    Messages:
    11,675
    Likes Received:
    4,435
    He's kind of a dick to the media, but I appreciate it on some level. I'm not somebody to hate on Jets beat reporters and I actually do appreciate guys like Cimini, Hughes and Rosenblatt, but Connor Hughes is getting annoying with how personally offended he comes off by how Aaron Glenn's media persona.
     
  15. NOVAJET

    NOVAJET "2020 TGG Fantasy Football Champ"

    Joined:
    Jun 2, 2003
    Messages:
    3,723
    Likes Received:
    3,006
    He's just sticking up for Cimini, that's who Glenn has chosen to direct his childish fits against for no reason other than Cimini doing his job. The whole hiding the starter the last 2 weeks at QB was just silly too, drawing nationwide media criticism for no reason other than to stroke his ego is bizarre, it's not normal at all or it wouldn't be national news but it is becoming a distraction atleast with the media.
     
  16. BroadwayAaron

    BroadwayAaron Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 6, 2008
    Messages:
    16,942
    Likes Received:
    22,025
    I actually do like our beat guys. Since Manish left there's been very little to hate. Hughes gets really cocky sometimes and runs his mouth but he's also a very good reporter.

    I think you're getting worked a little bit. Cimini has talked about how he's been covering Glenn since his rookie year and the two of them have a relationship. I don't think its all fun and games with the injury thing but its absolutely a little bit fun and games. At least for Glenn.
     
  17. Jets79

    Jets79 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 20, 2020
    Messages:
    4,136
    Likes Received:
    7,297
    Eh…at the end of the day I don’t care too much about how he is a nice guy or a dick to the media, I judge him on wins/losses

    However, he just looks foolish the way he’s doing it…

    Media: who’s the starter?
    AG: not saying yet
    Media: why not?
    AG: competitive advantage
    Media: what is the advantage?
    AG: Mine

    Some shit like that…just dumb

    But I’ll say this…you can be a dick and get away with it way better if you win…
     
  18. statjeff22

    statjeff22 2008 Green Guy "Most Knowledgeable" Award Winner

    Joined:
    Jun 4, 2005
    Messages:
    27,275
    Likes Received:
    7,200
    Exactly - Belichick was a dick in Cleveland and got fired. He was a dick in New England and was revered once Mo ushered in the Tom Brady era. Then he was a dick in New England after Brady left, and all of a sudden it was a problem for the owner.

    Glenn has built up exactly zero Brownie points to justify being a dick to anyone. Demonstrate some competence as a coach before you try to strong-arm anybody.
     
    mezzavo, NOVAJET and Jets79 like this.
  19. Jets79

    Jets79 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 20, 2020
    Messages:
    4,136
    Likes Received:
    7,297

    Seriously…he’s mocking the reporters for actually doing their job and asking questions…

    Like if the reporters were acting like him, they’d be mocking him for losing game after game, for sticking with a QB who is clearly the worst in the league, etc.

    They have like WAY more ammunition if they wanted to be dicks to him than the other way around

    Go win some fucking games and then act like a prick
     
    Ralebird, Cman69 and NOVAJET like this.
  20. jets_fan

    jets_fan Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 9, 2016
    Messages:
    5,242
    Likes Received:
    7,110
    I like how he's talking about a competitive advantage by not naming a starter. I mean, the choices are a guy who has trouble reaching 100 passing yards in a game, an often injured career backup, and an undrafted rookie. What competitive advantage are we talking about here, coach?
     
    Jets79 likes this.

Share This Page