Fields could be above average with good coaching. He'll likely never be a top QB, but this CS is out of touch with the keys to success in today's NFL.
For the love of God NO!!! That would be a huge waste of whatever low draft pick it would take to get him…dude SUCKS worse than Fields and is always injured Do not understand this take at all
Sorry…I disagree 100% with the first part of that take. Fields will NEVER be an above average QB in the NFL. He doesn’t have the basic fundamental mental skill set to play the position. He can’t read the field, he doesn’t understand receiver routes well enough to throw where they are going, he is way too slow to process so he holds the ball too long, he takes way too many sacks because he doesn’t have the pocket presence to avoid the rush and half the time steps right into the sack, he has a long slow windup and delivery, which combined with his lack of field vision, means that he too often has to wait and see the receiver open (and half the time he doesn’t throw it even then!) and then with the slow delivery he is very inaccurate with the ball, throwing above or behind receivers. I don’t understand how anyone can watch this dude play for 4+ years and think he is any good. He has a strong arm and he’s a great runner. That’s it. That does not mean he is a good QB. The college game has evolved so that these two qualities are enough to work in college, especially when you have the talent disparities between teams. But in the NFL, all teams are fast. All of them are NFL players. Those qualities are great to have in a QB for sure, but without the other stuff they are not enough. That’s why guys like Fields and Zach (who I think is the exact same player just not as athletic or as gifted a runner) are coach killers…people see their arm and running ability and think they can do something with them. They can’t. You have to see the fundamental flaws. They have always been there with him. There were there in Chicago, Pitt, and still today. That shit won’t change. If you can’t do the basic things a QB is expected to do, there is no help for that.
And that could happen as soon as now with Taylor injury, who is day to day & not practicing. I used to think that while Woody Johnson is a dope, he's willing to spend money which is usually all I care about from an owner. But the Rodgers fiasco was his fault. These Fields comments are affirmatively harmful to the team's ability to win. What kind of moron owner does that? He also chose AG, who is clearly in over his head. It all seems so hopeless. (The Jets killed Carl.)
This would be so Jetsie like move, let's get rid of a terrible QB, then get one equal to, or worse to sell to the suffering fanbase, make it happen Woody!
Don't lose any sleep over it. Sporting News is making no such prediction, some guy named Zachary Rotman is. It is the epitome of "clickbait" and they gotcha! A total waste of pixels.
Let's put the Richardson talk to bed right this very moment! I called his NFL failure exactly 3 seconds after he was drafted! Can jump out of a building but can't play QB at the COLLEGE level, let alone the pro's. Never ceases to amaze me how this supposed NFL professionals, literally, throw the book out the window the minute some kid runs fast etc. Anthony Richardson is, hands down, the most stupid pick I've seen, in the 1st round, in the last 20 years. And, I thought long and hard before saying that. Kid didn't even have a winning record in college yet goes at the top of the 1st round? Blows me away.
It's unbelievable that other teams stumble into starting QB's, and sometimes franchise QB's, in rounds outside of the first and second, and this colossal failure of multiple front offices waste premium pick after premium pick...
We did pick the right QB, in fact a VERY good one in Sam. If he were not ruined by Gase, and spent years recovering, he could have been even better than he is right now. Honestly I am thinking if we had solid structure in place then and truly developed him first couple of years, we could have been like the Bills after. We also picked Geno, who made two Pro Bowls with another team. Btw same team that has Sam now. And similar point could apply as well as far as developing him well, where we could have had good production earlier. We had Rodgers last year, who while shell of his former self, and even somewhat below average, still was is a starting level QB. So, it's not that we can't stumble into a good QB, the problem is that we keep picking wrong coaches and FO, who cannot support the QB. So even when we do stumble into a good one, which we did a few times, we don't even know it, because of how shitty things are around him. That's on the owner. P.S. Out of all the shitty ones the owners got though, I do want to give JD a special mention. That's is the GM who had 2 of these 3 decent QBs I mentioned and could not make it work. Losing Sam particularly hurts, since this was a young FQB drafted by the Jets, whom he gave historically bad support and then shipped out. Then when he got Rodgers, he failed to protect him. And then when Rodgers came back he destroyed special teams and DL. When you factor in the significance of the QB, JD may have been the worst GM we've had in a long time.
Both our GMs and HCs have been bad to terrible, but the inability to develop QBs is more on coaching I think. Woody keeps hiring first time DCs who have no clue how to develop a QB. This isn’t coincidence…this systemic. And Woody is too stupid to see any of it This is why I don’t have any faith that we will be able to develop a QB next year
We also had an OC who ran, by all accounts, a QB-friendly system, and he got fired as a scapegoat for Wilson not being able to complete 5 yard passes.
God…I remember SO many dump offs hitting the ground 4 yards before the receiver and so many other passes sailing 5 yards over their heads That guy Zach…man that is the definition of a coach killer QB…has the arm but nothing between the ears that a QB needs Fields is the same guy
And if there was one franchise that was somehow gonna end up with two of them from the same draft... it would undoubtedly be us. I find it far harder to watch Fields than I did Zach. Fields doesn't even look like he's played the sport before. Zach would do dumb shit. Fields just does... nothing. Sometimes literally.
Yup… I’m having a hard time deciding who was worse, but man, forget all the analytics and deep dives…all you really need to do to evaluate the QB is just watch the fucking games…some guys make it look easy and some make it look hard. Those guys who make it look hard suck balls and you don’t need them on the team. Both Zach and Fields make it look beyond hard…they make it look impossible most of the time.
Yeah, that one was not on coaching, that was on JD all the way. First he got rid of Sam (that one really really hurts), and also if you recall the O line was absolute shit and WR room not complete. Remember that final game MILF coached against Miami? We had Flacco there, who by the way is 3d starting level QB that JD had along with Sam and Rodgers. And there was nothing Flacco could do, the OL was just absolute shit. Going back to the point where everyone stumbles on starting level QBs, it's pretty remarkable, how JD had 3 starting level QBs on his rosters and managed to fuck all of them. And because of that we even lost a pretty good offensive coach. What a shit GM.
