I agree. I'd do anything to see the Jets play like the Lions have been lately. Yeah, they are good but I personally love that brand of football, physical on both sides, stud QB not necessary, running it down their throats. Philly is the same way
I think we’ll have to agree to disagree. You can absolutely teach tackling angles, positioning, technique without full speed collisions in July. I mean durability matters as much as toughness. Grinding down your roster before Week 1 feels short sighted. That said, he’s a former player and the head coach. He certainly knows more about football than me, and he knows his locker room better than I do. Interesting approach, hopefully it pays off and the season ends up being at least watchable.
Good point about durability. Two things from me. Like you said Glenn is a former player and he knows how to manage these guys better than your average wannabe coach like Saleh. And second, like Cman69 says, we are not winning anything this year so why not try something different for once.
Disagree. Last year this team did all the angle drills, position and technique dances and when the season started they couldn’t tackle for crap. They completely lost the drive, physicality, mindset and urgency associated with the act of tackling. You can only learn how to tackle but being physical and practicing to tackle. And for the offense to learn to push thru tackles for extra yardage. The rest are bonuses that make you better. Plus the routines where not all out collisions, but wrap and stop. That toughens you up, so you minimize soft tissue injuries when the season starts.
Your comment is extremely weird. Two or three comments is a hangup? Why is Gardner not subject to commentary? If Wilson was not being mentioned wouldn't that be odd?
the tan by all accounts wasn’t coached well. We saw that as well. Coaching can at least put these guys in better positions. I’m optimistic we will at least see some good football. The rest will take care of itself.
Good points! Quinnen said in an interview "We're practicing how to tackle and how to hold onto the football while being tackled, Nick Sabin football"
Actually, having played football a long way past high school...no, you cannot teach tackling, PROPERLY, without actually hitting. Let me give a bit of inside tipage. There are two sides to tackle football. The tackler and the one being tackled. Much like Judo, where you are TAUGHT HOW TO FALL, practicing tackling teaches the fundamental of how to tackle AND how to get hit. How to protect yourself. Ever notice how some ball carriers always seem to fall forward or it would appear that they fall a certain way? Of course you do. Often times the announcers will point it out. That doesn't happen by accident. No, obviously, you can't predict everything in how someone is going to get hit, blind sides etc., but, in general, when a ball carrier is moving forward and a tackler is coming at them there are things that can be done to protect oneself. Well, you don't learn that or practice how to do that unless you are getting hit. Not to mention getting the body READY for the beating. It's the same theory in the martial arts. Martial artists hit things to build up their bodies to withstand the punishment of delivering the blow. Boards with rope wrapped on them. Heavy bags etc. A LOT of cross training. One final thought on this. Tackling in practice doesn't include those massive WR blow ups you see in games. Tackling practice is almost always exclusively about learning how to wrap up. NOT delivering those knock you out massive blows.
by the time they get to the pros they should know tackling angles and technique. The individualized goal of camp is to get your body for live action and IMO you don’t get that by running around in shorts and t-shirts
On another note, I just saw an interesting quote from Evan Engram that relates to the accountability / culture conversation Basically he said something like “It was easy to be the first in the building with the Jaguars but it’s hard to be the first in the building with the Broncos” To me, that sounds like a very telling commentary on culture…it shows that there is a “want to” desire in the players to work hard, that there is enough competition in the building to make a lot of them get there early and show up, it may reflect an expectation from the coaching staff…etc., and it shows that there weren’t a lot of players on the Jags who cared enough to work that hard…like they were there to get a paycheck but weren’t 100% bought in emotionally. I don’t know how that dynamic is working for us now under AG, but man, I sure damn hope that we are more like the Broncos than the Jaguars
Maybe the Jets will be like the late 70's through early 80's Oakland Raiders: Violent, mean, dirty, winners.
