OFFICIAL: Welcome Darren Mougey as GM

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  1. LAJet

    LAJet Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for posting this
     
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    LAJet Well-Known Member

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    Matter of fact. After Rex, RS and JD, we need less slogans and a lot more show me.
     
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    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    Woody stonewalled that shit with Idzik and maybe Maccagnan (don’t remember exactly with Maccagnan). So it’s good to see he’s not doing the same.

    It’s pretty sad we need to be happy and encouraged about that.
     
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    I don't see it that way. Woody let JD do whatever he wants until last year when he started meddling due to poor results instead of just firing JD like he should have, but it was who JD didn't let them go. He kept them initially I suspect because it was easier. Heck, he promoted these guys, I mean why would Woody give a fuck if some guy 3d level in FO is promoted? Clearly JD liked them or he would not promote them. The way I see it Mooge is doing things differently from JD, and it is encouraging, at least on surface.
     
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    I don’t remember it that way actually…I remember reading about how JD totally revamped the scouting staff and approach…there were a lot of articles around all that. He brought in a different grading system, and I remember he talked some shit about the process that was run under MacCagnan.

    I also remember a lot of talk around how he needed to line up the scouting to connect better with the coaching staff and make sure they were bringing in players that fit the coaches schemes and had the traits the coaches were looking for…kind of implying that under Mac there was no coordination.

    So I don’t know where the stone walling comments are coming from…am I remembering it wrong?

    Regardless, I have no issue with a new GM bringing in his way of scouting and rating and drafting…I would want to bring in guys I know and trust as well, and clearly its not like our drafts have been extraordinary outside of the one draft with 3 first round picks…
     
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    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    Douglas he did, but the previous two (Idzik for sure) I believe he did not let them bring staff in or all the staff they wanted in.
     
  8. LAJet

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    Agree. But in retrospect both the guys fired held very hi level positions, and were there for the last three GMs. So the house cleaning apparently was more in the trenches only without changing the vision at the top, and achieving similar crappy results.
     
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    And now Rick Spielman joins the Jets as an advisor: https://sports.yahoo.com/jets-hire-former-vikings-gm-155525112.html

    Basically it similar role that his brother has with Detroit. They are really trying to recreate that model it appears, which changed Detroit franchise. I personally like Rick. When he joined Tanny to find the GM, I was excited about him specifically. I did not want him as a GM, but to bring experience in to help out as an advisor I think is a pretty solid move. For instance if he were here two years ago, I don't think he would have allowed JD to be raped by GB like this in Aaron Rodgers trade, as he was saying the value was a 4th round pick, not two seconds and a 1st swap, which turned out to be right.

    Important part too: "“Aaron Glenn and Darren Mougey are the final decision makers,” he later added. “I'm just there as their sounding board to help them and support them in any way.”"

    Basically, adds a voice, but Mooge is still the main FO guy, just like they have in Detroit with his brother. I like the move a lot.
     
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    Super happy to hear that.
     
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    Hopefully with the new FO in charge we will not be giving away players like JFM, earning only 7 mil a year, for a 6th round pick. I still can't believe JD fucked up like this. What an amature.
    https://x.com/NFLonFOX/status/1887265171049226509


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    Isn't Franklin-Myers a defensive end
     
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    JD was hit and miss and all over the board. On the other side of the coin Huff was let go, many here yourself probably included cried bloody murder, and proved to be a total bust and absolutely not worth the contract given to him by the Eagles , so there is that. JD was a huge hit and miss GM by all accounts, he let go of talent and brought some under performers…but letting go of some was absolutely the right thing. Best move was trading Adam, worst was drafting Wilson, hiring Saleh, and the AR trade where we got screwed by GB.
     
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    Huff is playing in the Super Bowl on Sunday
     
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    Huff would have helped a lot more than Reddick though. Sure for Philly he did not do much, because they basically have a 3 man rotation, and perhaps we did overrate him some, but I would not consider getting rid of Huff and using this money on Reddick a hit. It was another miss. We would have been a lot better off keeping both Huff and JFM.
     
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    Reddick was definitely a miss and then some. Even Woody got his nose in the mix.I think neither were worth the contract value. He could have done so much better investing elsewhere. Meyers was worth the value, but he needed some coaching to avoid those damned late penalties, coaching I don’t think he ever got under the previous regime.
     
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    Woody at least got Reddick to play after JD wasted a 3d round pick. At least some value for this asset, which turned out to be very little, but still. JD not only fucked up the trade, he could not even get Reddick to show up to get any value at all out of it.

    And JFM was a good player last year with us, in spite of some penalties. This entire DL handling was absolute back breaking fuck up by JD, something he did every single year. Which is why in spite of some decent individual moves, he would always make this back breaking amateur mistake to fuck us in the end.
     
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    To your point, I would not be a bit surprised if they go DL with the first pick, or second pick.
     
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    I wish him well, but he's basically a nobody brought in to play 2nd fiddle to AG.

    He wasn't on anybody's Top 5 or Top 10 GM list.
     
  20. LAJet

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    There is no top five of ten GM list. Available ex GMs are all previous failures one way or the other. Spare me the analysis. You look for up and coming talent in the trenches for those positions. Talent fans don’t know two shits about. I think they will work well together. He is not playing second fiddle to AG, he complements him well.
     

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