This is true. The Packers only ever won more than 12 games once under McCarthy. They also only ever made the NFC Championship 3 times. In the 3 years after Mcarthy left the Packers won 13 games all three seasons and made the NFC championship twice. If Rodgers had better coaching all those years he would have won more titles. McCarthy was not great outside of the title year
Yeah…Smith is not super inspiring to be sure, but I’d prefer him to Flores…I seriously do not understand the love for Flores…his record is not great, no playoffs, defensive guy, alienated his players, etc. Oh…and his defense just melted down in the playoffs. No thanks. If we’re going to go defense, I would prefer Spags or even Glenn…and I’m not super excited about Glenn only because we’ve tried first time DC hires time after time and our problems have continued to be shitty offenses which these guys don’t know how to fix. But at least Glenn is a former Jet, he knows the city and the media, and his personality and leadership style seem to be very strong, so I at least would be willing to give him a shot if he’s the hire. Smith is not the way I’d go…not super impressed with his work at Atlanta as HC so not doing cartwheels here. I don’t think it’s a great list of HC candidates, and I’m super frustrated that we haven’t even interviewed some offensive guys like Monken, Kingsbury, Coen, etc. I’d go get one of those guys, with probably Kingsbury as my top choice as he already has some HC experience and can hopefully build on that as opposed to having to learn it all on the job again. I would also talk to McCarthy if he would take the call…not sure how he feels about us after we passed on him but I’d for sure make the call…I do see him as a raise the floor type guy…he may not be the Super Bowl guy but after the decades of mediocrity, I do think he’d raise the bar for us and would prefer him over Arthur Smith. But for sure, LAST year was the year to throw the book at Harbaugh…a PROVEN game changer and winner everywhere he’s been. THAT’S the guy you give the keys to. But yeah…Woody.
So they only won because of Rodgers, but didn't underachieve in the playoffs because of Rodgers? Interesting. Didn't they choke in the playoffs in '19 and 20 as well? My memory's fuzzy but they were big home favorites against Tampa Bay that year.
Yes, I don't think coaches should be penalized for having good QBs either. By that logic Bill Belichick isn't a good coach.
If you look at Mike Mccarthy's record he is a good coach, the best coach available on the market right now, if you look at the Jets track record every first time coach or limited experience coach the Jets have hired has been pure dogshit. So why not do a 360 pivot and actually try something different this time? Or are we going to keep throwing darts blind and never make the playoffs? Mike Mccarthy in his sleep is better than the dogshit the Woodys keep hiring. He may not be Andy Reid but I will take average or above average over dogshit any day. And whats your point about coaches and good qb's, Adam Gase was given a quarterback who may be a Mvp this season and he couldn't do anything with him, Robert Saleh was given a hall of fame Qb and a good roster and couldn't do anything. Bad coaches suck no matter what.
I don't know about this move. I've always liked Aaron but I don't think coming to this shitshow is the right first attempt at a HC gig for him. He would be much better off in a smaller market like Jax to start. I'm not even getting into his ability to be an effective HC as that's a whole other topic. Sounds like another Woody reach.
I don't think they have gone into great detail about who is involved in the interviews but Woody is definitely sitting at the middle of the conference table with Hymie on one side side of him and Chris Johnson on the other for every one of them, I'd stake my life on it. I also think more than a few of them have been Zoom interviews.
I'm not a huge fan of how Flores handled everything in Miami but sometimes you need an asshole in the building. The optimistic view on Flores would be that he overachieved relative to his roster in Miami and learned lessons from his mistakes there. I'm ready for some discipline after 3 years of Saleh's day camp. Having said that, I'm a bit concerned that Flores is potentially a classic Jets over-correction from the previous coach. He may be too much of a disciplinarian. All in all, I'm just not really in love with any of the candidates we've interviewed. I'd love Kingsbury because he has HC experience and experience calling a great offense with a young QB. We either don't have enough interest in him to interview him or (more likely) he rejected our request. I'm not sure which is worse.
I'm not sure how much this means. It feels like a popularity contest rather than an objective rating of how good each DC is at their job. Glenn's defensives in Detroit have been very bad, like bottom 5, every year other than this year. His players like him, sure. I just don't know if that means anything either. Our players loved Saleh, probably because he let them get away with murder even when it repeatedly killed us during games.
If we're going with Glenn then I would rather go with a more proven version in Flores. I really do think he has a shot at being a pretty good HC in the league and learned a lot from Miami. I think right off the bat he brings discipline and that right there will put this team in a much better place. From there, he brings much more to the table and then they would need to really find a good OC to pair him with which is not easy.
I'm all in on McCarthy. He's the best option for where we are as a franchise right now. I don't want a rookie HC, I don't want a defensive HC. Get Mike in here to help stabilize the franchise. If 5 years from now we're complaining that he can't take the next step in the playoffs that is a WORLD DIFFERENCE from where we are today. Reminds me of how ppl spoke about Andy Reid when he left Philly. We would kill for him now. Get a professional in here. Now. Today. Right now. Please.
Hate to say it but it’s going to be Arthur Smith. Look at him. Already has Jetscoach Face and he hasn’t even started yet. Supposedly Woody loves him. Makes sense, he’s the son of a self-made billionaire…
I don't know if it's possible to agree with something more than I agree with this. The guy won 12 games three consecutive years in Dallas, something the Jets have only managed to do ONCE in the entire history of the franchise. Yeah, we might end up flaming out in the playoffs and eventually get sick of that, but that is a far cry from where we are now and could go a long way towards stabilizing the franchise and bringing some respectability to it.
I'm intrigued by Kingsbury but I don't think anyone has interviewed him for HC (unless I'm mistaken). Not in the mix this cycle for some reason
