Honestly, meh. I just don’t believe seeking advice from people who failed in their roles. If Spielman or Tannenbaum were actually interviewing to be our GM would you hire either? Of course not. So why would you take advice from them, especially paying them for advice?
He had a sketchy draft record, gave away most of the offensive talent we had and replaced them with Burress and Mason, and for a guy known as a cap guru he spent most of his tenure here up against the cap and left us in a terrible cap situation when we fired him. While Idzik was awful, and I mean awful, he did get us out of the cap hell Tanny left us in. So yea, his stint here was a failure. Would you hire him to be the GM? If that answet is no, how can you hire him to advise on picking a GM?
Don’t go giving Idzik too much credit for his “getting us out of cap hell” storyline. he cut bad contracts in Sanchez and Santonio Holmes that ANYBODY would have done. There’s no magic there. I’d stick with your original thought on him…he WAS awful. Beyond AWFUL. Had a 12 pick draft (which was stupid as you can’t keep that many draft picks…should’ve traded to move up or traded away for future picks but should not have kept them all), and then when he did keep them all, he blew EVERY SINGLE ONE. I think Enunwa was like the only decent pick. He was hands down awful.
I agree, was just pointing out that’s what Tanny left us with. I don’t know where we should be looking for assistance on finding a GM, I just don’t believe using ones that failed badly at the job should be guys advising us on who to hire.
I wouldn't say Spielman failed in his role. To keep GM job for 16 seasons, and even the last two when they didn't have a winning record, these were not terrible seasons, 7-9, 8-9. But overall he had a winning record, and 16 years as a GM with one team is not a failure. You could get burnt out, you could need a change of scenery. But he is widely regarded as a successful GM and a lot of prospective GMs seek his advice. More importantly, he was able to help Washington. So, for these reasons I would take advice from him. It certainly is a lot better than taking advice from Peyton Manning or for Woody to do it himself.
If you told me Spielman and no Tannenbaum I’d feel a little better, sure. Again, we’ve done this before with Casserly who had a much better pedigree than Spielman or Tannenbaum and I don’t think any of us look back fondly on that decision. We listened to Manning to get Gase, we used Korn Ferry to hire Idzik. I mean, I guess you could argue that hiring/taking advice from actual winners in the past didn’t work out, so now let’s start listening to the failures? Casserly and Manning won Superbowls. Spielman never won anything, neither did Tanny… so maybe we’re trying the opposite approach?
I would. If he was FIRED then he FAILED! No need to discuss in any further detail. Point of note: Go look at the Steelers. THAT's what happens when you do not fail. Failure=Fired
Whoever consults Woody, Woody will still fuck it up we know this from a 25 year sample size. He is like a braindead idiot who never learns, just look at his track record of hiring 1st time or unproven coaches for 25 years, or The Brett Favre experiment not working out so who rolls the dice again on 41 year old Rodgers. Woody hasn't learned in 25 years, do you honestly think he has learned this year?
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/...-nfl-head-coaching-candidates-for-2025-cycle/ Some interesting names at the bottom of the list we haven’t seen talked about. I didn’t know Coen was a McVay tree guy. Jesse Minter is going to be a HC sooner than later. He’s a hell of a coordinator.
