There's no way this was planned by Joe Douglas a 3rd round pick and $15 million for a guy you know will miss camp and at best be inactive for the 1st quarter of the season if that was the plan then I am scared to hear what plan B was
Remember that part of the Jets calculations in giving up a 3rd for him is that they would get a 3rd round comp pick when he signed elsewhere. If they cut him they don't get a comp pick.
reddick is not going to be inactive a quarter of the season. he will be rushing the passer and soon as he reports. chris jones sat out all of camp and continued to hold out through the first game last year and proceeded to play every game the rest of the season.
Remember that according to the Jets he agreed to play under current contract for year if they guaranteed it and gave him some incentives. So yes, they assumed he and his agent would honor that commitment and they didn't. This likely works ok for the Jets though because after penalties he gets much cheaper and, other than the 49ers they play their best opponents week 6 or later (and if he's not back by then his contract tolls and the Jets own his ass for another year).
Yes--then it becomes a question if $15mm is worth a 3rd round comp pick. As I've stated periodically over the last few years, the Browns effectively paid $16 million for a 2nd round pick several years ago with Ostweiller--maybe you recall. Its never dull being a jets fan, huh?
Does it get cheaper? The salary is the salary. He in turn has to fork out the penalty money, and dont know where it goes for sure, but Jd might sweeting it but adding more incentive.
If Douglas knew and planned for a holdout, he’s a complete moron. You maybe give up a late 6th or 7th conditional if you want to play the staring contest game over something like this. A 3rd and you let his younger equivalent walk in free agency to go to the team you just traded for the holdout? Cmon now.
The argument is he was so strategic, he reasoned that it would only cost him 1/2 the salary to get a healthy Reddick for the second part of year and furthermore Reddick's lack of play would not generate the 2nd round condition. Then he would still capture the comp pick in 2026.
A 3rd round pick that he’s getting back in a comp pick. Basically it’s only the difference between whatever the trade down from where we actually would’ve picked to the actual comp pick we receive for letting him walk next year. Reddick has no choice, he’s gonna show up. I think the coaches and JD feel that many of Huff’s sacks were manufactured (they were) and that he is a part time player (he is) and isn’t worth a long term deal. He’s talented, but he’s limited. We have 2 young guys on the team to fill the role that Huff vacates long term, but Reddick gives a strong 1 year presence that we need. Reddick is an ass, it’s apparent. He’s one of the best pass rushers and no one wants to give him a big contract. Were his 4th team now? 5th maybe? The FO believes we are SB contenders and Reddick is the cherry on top for us getting there. Do I think JD thought it was worth the headache of fans getting up in arms and media playing up a holdout they all knew was coming? Absolutely. Do I think JD and Co believe that Reddick will actually hold out the season? Of course not. I don’t think JD has lost an ounce of sleep over this, I think he knows and knew all along the day Reddick comes walking through the door with an attitude and a chip on his shoulder, exactly what I want from a pass rush specialist.
that sounds good but reddick would have to get a huge contract in '25 for the jets to get a 3rd comp pick in '26. he likely does not get that kind of deal if he willingly sits out half of '24.
He does get cheaper because (i) he still has to eat the fines (so far $50k/day for 35 days and fines for missing mandatory workouts), (ii) I believe he forfeits 1/18th of the year's salary for each pre-season game he missed (so he's already been fined 3/18ths of this salary), and (iii) he also forfeits a pro-rata portion of the signing bonus for the year. I believe that his total signing bonus was about $15 million, so they can also fine him for up to $5 million ($15 million/3 years), more or less pro-rata. If he shows up before game 6, then he's looking at forfeiting 8/18ths of his salary (3 pre-season games + 5 regular season games). Now, I believe that the Jets can waive (ii), but if he holds out until game 6, I'm pretty sure that the Jets won't waive any penalties they can apply to Reddick. At that point, they're basically paying him less than half his salary and he'd be available for the more important games this year anyway, including the dolphins and bills game. Then when he finally shows up, he'll be fresh and some of the Jets players might be a little tired, so Saleh can rest them a little more.
Chris Jones reported back to the team he played with his whole career though. That is not the case with Reddick obviously he's never been here. Besides Reddick wants to be traded.
the comp pick is no guarantee. You have to bank on multiple different things to happen, including that you wont sign any good players in free agency yourself, so planning ahead for a comp pick just doesnt happen in the NFL I'll agree though that Douglas probably hasn't lost any sleep over it, he certainly hasn't lost his appetite and skipped a meal over it either.
i hear that but luckily for the jets, he plays a position that doesnt need in depth knowledge of the playbook above all, he wants to be paid handsomely. playing this season is the only way that is going to happen for him.
Yeah, makes sense, but it's a pretty rare condition. I actually have not heard about that one before at all - contingent on a player showing up. Heck, even now after this, a trade for Judon didn't have that condition. Usually when you trade for someone, you ensure this risk is minimized with the player, not the trading team. Besides, the price for getting him was not high: a 3d round pick in 2026 is relatively small for 10+ sack player, all pro, etc... The biggest mistake was not the trade package, but the opportunity cost of losing Huff. It's funny how from the very beginning we were begging JD to just keep Huff for about the same price Reddick doesn't want to play for. Eagles seem to be pretty happy now: https://bvmsports.com/2024/08/19/eagles-bryce-huff-dazzles-in-camp-gaining-praise-from-teammates/ That to me is the biggest mistake JD made this offseason, and it was a very obvious one from the beginning. And this is even ignoring that he should have extended him for cheap the year before.
