Watching the playoffs... anyone else feel this way?

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  1. barfolomew

    barfolomew Well-Known Member

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    Until Woody dies we will be watching other teams in the playoffs.
     
  2. WarriorRB28

    WarriorRB28 Well-Known Member

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    It's all important. The coaching, players, breaks, timing of things etc.

    The team has to function as one cohesive unit.

    The Jets lost their starting QB a few plays into the season finished the season on their fourth string QB yet finished with seven wins.

    I'm not making excuses just looking at the reality of the situation.
     
  3. WarriorRB28

    WarriorRB28 Well-Known Member

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    Overall I think the game from a coaching standpoint has become very dumb.

    I don't see much difference with how Coach Saleh and crew do things from other coaches.

    I remember watching the second Miami game this season when the Jets went for it on fourth down on their side of the field when the Jets didn't convert it opened the floodgates the game became a blowout. Then I watched the Lions-Cowboys the Detroit coach did the same thing going for it on 4th down on his end of the field then passed up a short fg to go for it on 4th down inside the red zone. Detroit lost by one point.

    These days ALL head coaches do stupid **** even the legendary coaches or top coaches.
     
  4. WarriorRB28

    WarriorRB28 Well-Known Member

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    He's a nerd.

    Also the Dolphins head coach. First time I saw him last season I didn't know who he was I couldn't believe someone like that could be a head coach for a NFL team.

    On the other hand the Detroit head coach looks like a frickin' linebacker.
     
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  5. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    Heavens to murgatroid!
     
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  6. MDJets

    MDJets Well-Known Member

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    Starts with QB.
     
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  7. Jonathan_Vilma

    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    We also never have a plan for a player we draft or a vision for how they’ll fit into a scheme, long term organizational fit and all that jazz.

    Zach Wilson is the perfect example juxtaposed to Jordan Love. The Packers knew he was going to need several years on the bench to adapt to the league while the Jets smacked him on the backside and said go get’em tiger.

    Dial it back even further to when we took Wilkerson, Kendrick Ellis (3rd round), Coples, Richardson, took a minor 1 year break and then Leonard Williams. They were all 285+. In what world would that defense ever make sense to have them all on the field at once? We were going to run a 5 or 6 man front with a bunch of defensive tackles?

    Second round receivers - Devin Smith, Stephen Hill, Denzel Mims… can they play receiver? Who knows but they can run fast in a straight line? Can they catch? Meh they’ll figure out how to if they can’t because they’ll be so open because it’s Fast and the Furious baby!

    Let’s bring back old Revis, Gilchrist, Buster Skrine and build a SUPER secondary. Coach says he needs it to run his defense, well we’ll give it to him. They all flame out in a year and a half and then we take back to back safeties.
     
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  8. REVISion

    REVISion Well-Known Member

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    Don't see how that's relevant. Many of the top current coaches qualify as nerds. I'd much prefer a bunch of nerds than Douglas and Saleh who operate like it's the 90's. Let's try to win with defense and a running game for the 15th straight year when it's been out of vogue for 20 years. Brilliant.

    If anything, our problem is actually that we don't have enough football nerds in the organization. Our analytics department is tiny. It's no coincidence we repeatedly do things that smart teams realized were dumb 15 years ago like acquiring old RBs and investing extremely heavily into the DL at the expense of the offense.

    Woody isn't even a nerd, he's a just a moron with no football IQ whatsoever. A nerd would be a massive upgrade over him.
     
  9. WarriorRB28

    WarriorRB28 Well-Known Member

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    Jets had that this season

    They forgot about the o-line then got some bad luck a few plays into the season.
     
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  10. WarriorRB28

    WarriorRB28 Well-Known Member

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    Yeah.

    I remember how crucial a player Bilal Powel was during the 2015 season then the Jets went out and got Forte. To me it made no sense.

    I remember seeing the articles that offseason about how excited Chan Gailey was about unwrapping his new (OLD) toy and immeditaely was filled with dread.

    It's team building, self scouting and also lack of continuity. People come in with one vision about the type of team they want to build then they lose their jobs and the new people come in with a different vision of what they want.

    MacCagnan drafted Jamal Adams, found Robby Anderson then he lost his job. Douglas let those players get away or traded them.

    The same thing will happen if the current regime loses their jobs the new people will have a different vision for the type of team they want to build.
     
  11. WarriorRB28

    WarriorRB28 Well-Known Member

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    I can't say too much about Mike McDaniels his team killed my team twice this year. They didn't break a sweat doing it. I don't know anything about his background to me he doesn't look like he's lifted weights in his life or played football. To me he looks like a nerd.

    I have to question if Mike McDaniels can hold things together if things get rough. If the league figures him out and the wins stop coming will he be able to maintain control over his football players?

    I doubt that.

    Douglas & coach Saleh have football backgrounds though. Douglas is a ex-lineman and coach Saleh looks like Jason Taylor I don't know if he's played the game before. He's been a coordinator for top organizations.

    The jury is still out on him if he can do it as a head coach because he hasn't done it yet. He was dealt a bad hand early this season.
     
  12. HomeoftheJets

    HomeoftheJets Well-Known Member

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    Indeed, muscle guys are guaranteed winners, which is why we're Super Bowl bound.

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    stinkyB 2009 Best Avatar Award Winner

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    Can Robert Saleh bench press Joe Douglas? That is the real question we need answered...
     
  14. REVISion

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    Ultimately, respect for coaches and GMs comes from success. Losers don't get respect, no matter their physical stature or backgrounds as players.

    We lose so much because we're a dumb franchise. That goes for our coaching and our personnel moves. We do things that aren't smart from a data perspective.

    If your players can't respect your coach because he's not jacked, they probably aren't very smart players.
     
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  15. barfolomew

    barfolomew Well-Known Member

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    Luck is the residue of design.
     
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    ColoradoContrails Well-Known Member

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    I'll play the attribution cop for a moment and say that this quote came from Branch Rickey who one of, if not the, most successful GMs in baseball history.

    To put this another way, luck is the currency of losers; gold and silver - as in medals and trophies - are the currencies of winners.

    All that fancy wordsmithing aside, it really irks me when Jets fans talk about our "bad luck", ir that we're the victims of a "Joe Namath Curse". Bullshit. We're the victims of incompetence over decades because of incompetent owners.

    Luck has nothing to do with it.
     
  17. Section 336

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    CFL is a passing league. So they don’t even belong there.
     
  18. Ralebird

    Ralebird Well-Known Member

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    Can we just simplify that to better match a time worn phrase? "Wins Talk, Bullshit Walks" And make sure the sidewalk is plowed to facilitate the exit!
     
  19. Ralebird

    Ralebird Well-Known Member

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    The "reality of the situation" is that the Jets never had a starting quarterback this season. Ninety seconds doesn't count and not getting one before the sun came up September 12 is the epic failure of the organization.
     
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  20. MDJets

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    Agree but just saying and responding to the OP that IMO in playoffs it starts with whoever is at the QB for success in the playoffs. Just need an efficient QB to make plays and no TO Ala, Mayfiels vs Phi and Love vs Dallas and Stroud vs Browns.
     

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