Vilma had a really bad year. He made no impact plays and missed a huge sack in the New England game. Do you think we could get anything for him in a trade at this point. Honestly I think he was our fourth best linebacker this year. Hobson, Thomas, and Barton in my opinion all had better years.
Holy shit you don't have a hard on for Shaun Ellis this time!? 1 year in a new defense and you want to trade him? Very smart jesse, veeerrrrrrrry smart.
well wasn't everyone else in the first year of the defense also. The other linebackers seemed to play very well. Also Ellis sucked all year also. Ellis and Vilma are both overrated and Ellis is extremely overpaid. I think Vlima was on a milk carton all season because I didn't see him make any plays
Vilam admitted that he had a bad year himself. no reason to defend vilma. yeah he was getting used to a new system, he still sucked.
also Vilma really didn't have a great year last year. He made no impact plays last year also. His only good year was his rookie year.
Do you not read or listen to the coaches? Some players benefited and grasped the system quicker than others, I agree. Thomas and Hobson had breakout years in the new defense, good for them. But did you not read that Vilma pretty much had to sacrifice his best asset, his speed, so he can put the other linebackers in the right position to make plays. Vilma acknowledged that his play wasn't that good, and with a full offseason to understand this scheme better while hopefully upgrading the NT position while kicking DRob to End, would that not benefit Vilma even more? Trade a player who had an average year in a brand new system that he has never played in and all the of pieces for the defense aren't even in place yet. Very smart jesse.
He didn't have a great year last year either. What is your reason for that? He is too small and gets blocked out of the play all the time. That was his problem coming out of college and is still his problem he is too small!!!!
I would be all for trading Vilma for the right price. But it's a high price. I agree he had a bad year but the Jets would have to get one of the top 15 guys in the league at his position to justify that trade.
the guy is a great athlete and a great player the coaches will find a way to put him into the position to make plays he was the leader of that defense and they got better as the season went on he's not going to be ray lewis 1 year into the 3-4
He had a good year 2 seasons ago, he was pretty much our defense 2 seasons ago, granit, the run defense still wasn't good and while Vilma racked up a lot of tackles, most were behind the LOS, but he was able to use his speed. Enough of the small argument, go back to bashing Shaun Ellis.
I would give him a pass,this year was a big learning curve for Vilma and the rest of the guy's .But if theres whispers from another team to move up in the draft . Hmmm very interesting.
Vilma's numbers were pretty consistent with other ILBs in the 3-4 system. It took time for everyone to adjust and I thought he played well toward the end of the season. How well he played has nothing to do with whether or not to trade him. If the team can be improved in other areas by trading him, the team might have to consider it. I'm not sure that you need an athlete of Vilma's status to play the ILB spot in the 3-4. What I'm saying is that you dont need to have a Kentucky Derby winner pulling a cart when a cart horse is available and if you can trade the Kentucky Derby winner for a great Show Jumping Horse when what you need is a Show Jumping horse you have to at least consider it.
That boat has SAILED. The FO IMHO BLEW it. He should have been traded before or during last year draft when he had a bit of value
The boat has not sailed , whilst we're on metefors , the jigsaw is not yet complete. Ray Lewis and Zach Thomas (spits) would have had a hard time this season. Lets wait until we get our run stuffing DT.
Sorry guy even his college coach said we made a incorrect pick in taking JV over Wilfork. Also JV DID NOT excel in the 4-3 either unless you consider making most of his tackles 5 or more yds DF in that D is acceptable. The ship has sailed as I posted & the time for trading him as also expired
i wouldnt say he sucked...he didnt have the kind of year i'm sure he and all of the fans expected, but it was hardly a bad year...can't wait to see vilma with some big boys in front of him:up:
Hindsight is a wonderfull thing. Wilfork and Vilma are both great players. Wilforks position does not rely on anyone in front of him , he makes plays with his fellow linemen. Vilma on the other hand is not a 3-4 guy as everybody knows and has said himself that he has found it difficult to adjust. I don't believe that we will go all out at 3-4 but continue to adapt a hybrid 3-4 D. But we will need to address the DT as a matter of urgency. With more teams now switching to 3-4 , good DTs are going to be at a premium. Isn't the reason Baltimore drafted Ngata because of Lewis finding penetration difficult? We need the same.
