Nathaniel Hackett hired as OC

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  1. BrowningNagle

    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

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    nothing was solved by anyone. It was a tire fire. One of the worst coaching efforts in recent memory
     
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    BroadwayAaron Well-Known Member

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    Luckily he wasn’t hired to do 75% of what he had to do in Denver and failed at.
     
  3. BrowningNagle

    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

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    what?
     
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    BroadwayAaron Well-Known Member

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    Fat finger post… started typing two different thoughts and didnt erase half

    Luckily he wasn’t hired to do 75% of what he failed at in Denver. He’s not managing the clock or keeping egos in check or worrying about upsetting the franchise’s mistake of a centerpiece. He’s calling plays and teaching the offense. Two things he’s had moderate to high success at in multiple stops
     
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    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

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    Well that’s partially right, managing the clock when you have the ball is an important part of play calling.

    And im sure LaFleur would tell ya there were egos to manage here as offensive coordinator
     
  6. BroadwayAaron

    BroadwayAaron Well-Known Member

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    Ego management that he’ll have to deal with here is peanuts compared to the Denver mess. Elijah Moore is unhappy with the amount of targets he got. Russell Wilson wanted to change the entire offense.
     
  7. HackettSuxTNG

    HackettSuxTNG Well-Known Member

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    It wasn't just Elijah Moore, it was also Denzel Mimms, Corey Davis, and any TE not named Berrios.
     
  8. BroadwayAaron

    BroadwayAaron Well-Known Member

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    This is messier than the offense Hackett was forced to run in Denver.

    Mims has more penalties than catches, who cares what he thinks?
    Corey Davis had issues? Link me to that story.
    We have no TE's named Berrios, and when did any of them have an ego?
     
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  9. Jets79

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    Personally I’m not enamored with this hire…the guy failed big time in Denver. I get all the HC is different than OC talk and agree, but to me it’s still a huge red flag.

    so if one of MLFs perceived failings was not being able to tailor his offense to the talent on hand (all this talk about how his offense was not a good fit for Zach), then why are we ok with another OC who also couldn’t tailor his offense to one of the top QBs in the fucking league?

    if we get Rodgers because of Hackett then I get it. Otherwise, I’m not impressed with Hackett at all.

    and no, I don’t have any other better names to give because with our lack of a legit NFL QB and the perceived hot seat this season for Saleh and JD, I don’t know that we realistically had a good shot to land a top OC candidate. It was always going to be either a newbie or a retread who needed an image rehabilitation. Which is why I wasn’t convinced firing MLF was the right move. We were killing Ulbrecht last year and now that we got some talent on the D we went to top 5. Who’s to say that getting a real QB and better stability on the OL wouldn’t have done something like that for the offense?

    in the end I get the firing and no TDs in three games is beyond pathetic so I’m not going to defend MLF too much, but it just seems like we made a move without a clearly better option in place. I guess you can argue that Hackett at least has experience, at least has had some success in the past, and gets us a chance to maybe land Rodgers, so with that lens it can be argued he’s an upgrade…but just in my gut I’m not feeling it.

    we’ll see…but I was not super happy to hear this news though I’m willing to give him a chance to prove it was the right move…
     
  10. BrowningNagle

    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

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    Sadly he is the poster boy for why the Rooney rule exists. This guy keeps getting jobs despite failing everywhere.

    His career is built on his dad and his personal relationships, not on performance
     
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    This is so far from reality that I don't know where to start.
     
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  12. BrowningNagle

    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

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    cool thanks for your insights. We know you love the hire. You love everything the Jets do
     
  13. Nyjets4eva

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    Great insight!!! You know your stuff
     
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    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

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    ESPN's Ryan Clark today sums it up pretty well

    “Nathaniel Hackett is actually terrible at coaching. He’s terrible at managing an offense. He’s terrible at decision-making ... He actually shows you that he can’t command a locker room, he can’t hold it all together himself. And now we’re going to ask that guy to be the offensive coordinator in New York, which is the worst place to be anything and not be good at it, just because he might get Aaron Rodgers."
     
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    barfolomew Well-Known Member

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    Does he have first hand knowledge of hackett?
    If not then why listen? Just another talking head on espn
     
  16. JetsNation06

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    Let's face it. We can pretty this hire up all we want. If we don't get Rodgers I think was an epic fail of a hire.

    What other valid reason could the Jets brass have for hiring a guy who couldn't even last an entire season as a HC? You have to be horribly bad as a coach not to last at least one entire season in the NFL. I mean it's almost unprecedented outside of a few high profile examples.

    Why would you hire this guy when there are so many up and coming names around the league who have been part of successful offenses?

    I don't even give Hackett that much credit for his time in GB with Rodgers because AR was already a long-time HOF QB by the time Hackett came along. Let's face it, Rodgers just likes the guy and his family and it shows in the comments he made about "Hack".

    I'm glad he likes him and this better be what gets him to the Jets. If not, this was a horrible hire any way you slice it.
     
  17. bicketybam

    bicketybam Well-Known Member

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    He was undrafted has been safety who nobody remembers. Now all of a sudden he's an expert on all things football. You can't make this shit up.
     
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  18. BrowningNagle

    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

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    Well for one, Hacketts terrible results speak for themselves.

    Secondly, I’m sure Ryan Clark has a lot of knowledgeable connections around the league
     
  19. bicketybam

    bicketybam Well-Known Member

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    My friend's cousin's girlfriend's dad works at One Jets Drive and sometimes he will pass along a scoop.
     
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    barfolomew Well-Known Member

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    You may be right, but i hope not.
    If someone who has played for him talks similar trash then I'd take notice.
    Im underwhelmed by the hire but ill sendnout some positive vibes to those who need it.
     

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