We need some new leadership and a proven QB... your HC pick

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Who would you want to see as HC in 2023?

  1. Sean Payton, Former HC Saints

    17 vote(s)
    32.1%
  2. Jim Harbaugh, HC Michigan Wolverines

    9 vote(s)
    17.0%
  3. Brian Callahan, Offensive Coordinator, Bengals

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  4. Eric Bieniemy, Offensive Coordinator, Chiefs

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  5. Ken Dorsey, Offensive Coordinator, Bills

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  6. Kellen Moore, Offensive Coordinator, Cowboys

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  7. Shane Steichen, Offensive Coordinator, Eagles

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  8. Adam Stenavich, Offensive Coordinator, Packers

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  9. Keep Robert Saleh as HC another year

    25 vote(s)
    47.2%
  10. Other Candidate

    2 vote(s)
    3.8%
  1. JetsFan

    JetsFan Well-Known Member

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    Our team is done for another year after a promising start and we have NO QB worth a shit. Saleh has lost the team and is over his head, plus it is apparent Woody doesn’t care for him. I want an Offensive HC who can pick his own QB and live or die with him. I don’t want a Defensive HC anymore.

    I feel my list of candidates is the best Offensive coaches who will be available, unless GB fires their HC too, then you can add him to the list of candidates. Time for Woody to open his wallet and spread the love, since he made billions off the vaccine shit. I don’t care what it would cost, my top two are Payton and Harbaugh. It would cost north of $10M a year, with a guaranteed contract and full team control.

    Who do you want leading the Jets next year? For those that want to be loyal, I put Saleh at #9 and I left #10 open in case you want a Defensive HC or a college candidate.


    Sean Payton, Former HC Saints
    Jim Harbaugh, HC Michigan Wolverines
    Brian Callahan, Offensive Coordinator, Bengals
    Eric Bieniemy, Offensive Coordinator, Chiefs
    Ken Dorsey, Offensive Coordinator, Bills
    Kellen Moore, Offensive Coordinator, Cowboys
    Shane Steichen, Offensive Coordinator, Eagles
    Adam Stenavich, Offensive Coordinator, Packers
    Keep Robert Saleh as HC another year
    Other Candidate
     
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  2. JohnnyP123456

    JohnnyP123456 Well-Known Member

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    reports out today that the saints want a frp for Payton which is a haul for a HC
     
  3. JetFanInNE

    JetFanInNE Well-Known Member

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    I mean we’re not firing Saleh either way but I voted Payton for shits and giggles
     
  4. HomeoftheJets

    HomeoftheJets Well-Known Member

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    Throw the first few names out the window because none of them will take this job. Our best option is to stick with Saleh for another year, get him a real QB, and hope we can win with him. And if not, then fire everyone, at which point we'll have shown enough patience that maybe someone decent will come here.
     
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  5. george sakell

    george sakell Well-Known Member

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    Give whatever it takes to get Sean Peyton
     
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  6. JetsFan

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    I think there is a good chance either Woody himself demands Saleh be fired or half his coaching staff gets the axe. Salah did turn the defense around quick through pure luck, but they gave up BIG plays to suspect offenses down the stretch. On offense and special teams we just sucked. There wasn't one aspect of coaching Saleh proved he was any better than any name on the list. You actually have to go back to the Kotite days to find a team that was as bad as Saleh's in scoring. Last year's points differential was worse than under Kotite and this year the points put up per game was just as bad as year two under Kotite when we went 1-15. If you can be compared to Rick Kotite, you should be fired.
     
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  7. IIMeanDeanII

    IIMeanDeanII Well-Known Member

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    This Is moot. I would strongly consider the top guys on this list. I personally would love Harbaugh.

    Realistically though.

    Nobody Is getting fired. I just don't see It.
     
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  8. NYJetsO12

    NYJetsO12 Well-Known Member

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    What about Joe Douglas the Brain Trust who allowed this to happen

    You trust him???? I don't

    Give Sean Payton Managemnt control too...he knows what he's doing

    Douglas has a laundry list of FIREABLE mistakes that clearly outweigh his one or 2 successes
     
  9. NYJetsO12

    NYJetsO12 Well-Known Member

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    Congrats for seeing the writing on the wall!!!

    Many on here (myself included ) we busy making excuses for Saleh and Douglas

    Douglas has made damning mistakes : no OL disaster at QB draft and the HC / staff has been exposed as all talk and substance HE SHOULD BE FIRED...PERIOD

    Agree 100% ..and I hope Laconforta report is true
     
  10. ConcordeChops

    ConcordeChops 2018 International Poster Award Winner

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    Either of the first two. Realistically, we are still trading receipts until Black Monday 2024
     
  11. IIMeanDeanII

    IIMeanDeanII Well-Known Member

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    The OL argument Isn't legit. He has invested a lot Into this OL. Injuries happened. Nobody could have done a better job with that.
    QB though.. Yeah, that's a legit problem.

    Firing a guy that has built a lot of great talent for this team In a very short time, probably Isn't Ideal either.

    There Is a serious problem, It needs fixed, hopefully they figure It out this offseason.
     
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  12. ConcordeChops

    ConcordeChops 2018 International Poster Award Winner

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    The OL argument is legit. Responsibility either sits with JD, the medical staff or the ground staff for this ongoing problem. Picks like Becton and Cam Clark were head scratchers before the injury issues, And that’s before we’ve overpaid for free agents and former retirees.
     
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  13. IIMeanDeanII

    IIMeanDeanII Well-Known Member

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    You can't prepare any better for the OL than JD did.. The amount of injuries we have taken Isn't normal. That's just ridiculous. I'm all for criticism, that's silly though. Just silly.

    What should he have done? Other than somehow have the foresight to foresee all of these injuries happening? Should he have invested 20 OL to the cause? What should he have done differently?

    Truly.
     
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  14. ConcordeChops

    ConcordeChops 2018 International Poster Award Winner

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    We are talking about 5 positions across the OL. How many signings does he need to make before we stop putting this down to simply being “unlucky” with injuries? Truly?

    We haven’t addressed any other roster position to the same extent yet the same voices on here are crowing for the our first draft pick to be used on the OL. I’m sure our scouting team will duly find another 7’ 6”, 500lb prospect with knees made out of Oreos.
     
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  15. GREG

    GREG Well-Known Member

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    I expect the Broncos to do this. Russell Wilson isn't going anywhere, and they need an offensive coach like Payton to come in and fix that mess.
     
  16. IIMeanDeanII

    IIMeanDeanII Well-Known Member

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    Dude was a legit prospect. MB showed a lot of promise. He got to the league and has had problems with his weight and knees. Nobody can know for sure how that plays out until you draft him.

    You can't tell me that he hasn't invested plenty of resources though Into this OL. He has done so much more than others before him, specifically at that position.

    You did not explain what he should've done differently. You just regurgitated silliness. I don't get It.

    He has literally invested far more resources In the OL than most would.

    Draft:

    Mekhi Becton - Showed a lot of promise as a rookie. Had the credentials to be drafted where he was. Hindsight, sure, weight issues. It wasn't a bad pick though for the potential that Is there.
    Cam Clark - Freak AF injury happened. He retired. He was showing a lot of promise too before the freak injury.
    AVT - An amazing draft selection. He got injured and that's when the OL really fell apart.
    Max Mitchell - Injury and Blood Clots... No way you can predict that. Showed a lot of promise early this year as well.

    Free Agents:

    Greg Van Roten - Cheap backup, who played because of injuries. He's gone. Still playing for the Bills.
    Connor McGovern - Has been sturdy, dependable, and lived up to the contract he got.
    George Fant - Another good signing who has played all over the line because of Injuries and out of position. On top of that, he clearly has been hurt all year, but still played the majority of the year. Money well spent.
    Alex Lewis - He was serviceable, ultimately he wasn't worth the contract he had. Happens. We still got some value out of him while he was here.
    Josh Andrews - Cheap backup/Depth
    Dan Feeney - Cheap Backup/Depth
    Laken Tomlinson - This Is the one signing I truly hated but he hasn't played God awful either. I don't think he has lived up to his contract though so far.
    Duane Brown - Dude was injured all year. Still had the toughness to do all that he could given our injury woes.

    Then you have...

    Nate Herbig
    - Dude has played above expectations. Good poach from the Eagles.
    Cedric Ogbuehi - Played fairly well, again, considering expectations.
    Laurent Duvernay-Tardif - Was a solid addition overall, again, considering the expectation.

    The guy hasn't just sat on his hands, twiddled his thumbs, and hoped for the best. He's invested significant resources to this OL, that includes depth.

    This argument Is dumb considering we are seeing the stripped down version of this OL, AFTER all the turmoil and injuries at the position.

    There Is an obvious amount of investment that I listed there In this OL. It's just a dumb argument. Seriously.

    It's just silly and I truly can't take It seriously.

    I listed 15 different names there for our OL, I'm probably missing a few If I'm honest.

    ..but, yeah, dude really slacking I guess on the OL. Sigh.
     
  17. Section 336

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    I love the idea of Sean Payton.
    I hate the idea of Jim Harbaugh, I personally think he is an asshole and I think his ego is too big and skin is too thin to make it with the Jets.

    Don’t think either is in the realm of reality though.
     
  18. IIMeanDeanII

    IIMeanDeanII Well-Known Member

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    Harbaugh has thick skin man.. I don't think he Is an asshole, I think he Is very misunderstood, I think he knows what It takes for him to get his teams where they need to be. He Is confident and doesn't care what others think about his process. So It comes off In a way that makes It look selfish at times. I don't think that's It though.

    Anyway. I agree on the latter portion.

    I highly doubt either will be an actually possibility at this point. I would welcome either though, personally.
     
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  19. cmcm750203

    cmcm750203 Well-Known Member

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    No more coordinators
     
  20. george sakell

    george sakell Well-Known Member

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    It funny because I thought you have to earn the right to be cocky, but Saleh was cocky all year and now looks like a fool. From the time to taking receipts to the time he said we will see Buffalo again this year only to choke 3 straight. We need a coach who has earned the right to be cocky. And if we throw a blank check at Peyton or Harbaugh they will come here. Look at John Gruden he came running to the Raiders a dysfunctional organization for a 100 mil. No More of these no ones with no experience based on a succesful Zoom meeting. Get someone proven like Bill Parcells was and give them full control of the organization. All it costs is money that doesn't count against the Caps. And the Woody's definately have that.
     

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