Theres no reason to get rid of these guys because Jet fans are the most miserable fanbase on the face of the planet. The right move is bring them back, keep White and let Zach battle it out with another year under his belt. There’s no other QB available for upgrade IMO, unless you want the z Lamar Jackson experience (and even he isn’t a great passer). Y’all can’t even give Zach more then a season’s worth of starts and are running him out of town. It’s rather ridiculous, even if he May not amount to anything. He’s not a complete zero like Josh Rosen, who has been passed around the league.
offer him a contract. Lol. maybe he will want to stay with the franchise that gave him his first true shot. I dunno, we will find out.
Decent chance we offer White a short, incentive-laden deal commensurate with an open training camp competition for the starting QB spot. It's a system he knows, with good young pieces and a locker room that adores him. If a team is going to offer more than that to Mike White -- like hand him the keys to their franchise -- then obviously we wish him farewell. Otherwise, why wouldn't he be back?
My best guess is White will draw an offer that puts the Jets on the spot. Not a top-end deal by any stretch but enough that the Jets have to shit or get off the pot. There aren't enough decent QB's in the NFL for White not to draw an offer from somebody that makes the Jets uncomfortable.
The Jets need a true franchise QB that will perform in the top 10 for the next decade if they want a realistic chance of winning a SB - trouble is that is like capturing lightning in a bottle and they haven't managed it in the last 40 years and I'll be dead before they ever do - the gutting thing is Lawrence could be that kind of player and they blew their chance of drafting him by stupidly winning a meaningless game - I have zero faith in the Jets being able to make the right call with a rookie QB so our only hope is that a Deshaun Watson type scenario arises and the Jets do whatever it takes to bring them in - I dont give a crap if it costs 3 first rounders and a shit load of money - just do it (hell from Sanchez to now we've invested 3 top 5 picks and 6 second round picks in the QB spot and have nothing to show for it).
That is a very good and well thought out list. But I'd try to shoe horn "not having all our best players get IL'd for huge chunks of the year" in there somewhere. Becton out, AVT out, Mike White out, Corey Davis out, Breece out, Quinnen out.... Ughh....
Part of the problem is that the Jets don't value later round draft picks appropriately. This means their depth usually comes from post-prime vet free agents and street meat. The vet free agents are both more likely to get injured than a young draft pick and also more likely to step down due to nagging injuries or just the influence of Father Time. This is not a new problem. This has been the case for the entire Johnson ownership and is a big part of the injury jinx the jets have operated under for the last 20+ years.
That'd just be classic if we nickel and dime him, he leaves and goes kick ass somewhere else, and then we're just left even more screwed than we already feel like we are. That'd literally be like watching the door slam in your face and then realizing its kind of cold out here.
We do this to ourselves. Overdraft a kid in the top 5 and then stick him on the field right away without enough preparation and glaring holes in his game. This is Jets 101 at this point: How to fail at developing a young QB.
Agreed. I don't think its just us though (i know its definitely a Jets problem) Desmond Ridder didn't look good yesterday after sitting for almost a whole season, Pickett doesn't look great, Josh Allen wasn't a world-beater his first 2 years I think a big problem is the typical NCAA QB doesn't directly translate to the NFL anymore, they NEED to be coached up and developed. The Jets, unfortunately, prove time and time again that they just can't do it
Also, too many QB's get taken in pulses at the top of the NFL draft. There really isn't a great QB draft class every 4 or 5 years but the NFL acts as though there is, typically when a great prospect is coming out and everybody gets QB fever. You get one of those classes where 3 QB's should go in the top half of the first maybe every 15 years or so.
The Jets always seem to look for the WOW factor when it comes to QBs. He's marketable, has great highlights, off schedule, a thunderbolt arm, etc. They don't seem to value QB101 basics and over value the things that differentiate the great from the good, then try to reverse engineer a serviceable guy from that whilst capitalising on the shiny new toy moment. Not really much surprise it doesn't work out.
100%. To the Jets a high QB draft is a shiny marketing tool that quickly gets tarnished and then inevitably discarded.
Giving MW 6.5m (MW+Flaccos 2022 contracts) with starter incentives is a no brainer. It’s what Bridgewater makes in Mia and makes sense for both parties.
QB and OL are the top priorities. JD made some mistakes building the OL but also got unlucky with the amount of injuries. Agree that they need to add at least a couple OL prospects in the draft, possibly a free agent as well. Would be amazing if they can get a top LT prospect in the 1st. As of now, I'd bring back McGovern if it's a reasonable deal, but look to the draft simultaneously. Tomlinson I'd probably cut. Bring back Herbig. AVT probably move back to LG. QB-wise, unless ZW is a locker room cancer/hated by teammates, which I doubt though the way some guys, especially Garrett Wilson, respond to him is suspicious, I'm fine having him back. Not like you can trade him. Who knows, maybe things click for him as time goes on but cannot be depended on. BUT he obviously needs to face legitimate competition. I want Mike White (+5-10 pounds) back as well as another QB added. Unless they have the ability to add a high end QB, which is unlikely, I don't see another path. Like the skill players overall Give Q the bag. Probably need to cut Lawson, who has underwhelmed. I do hear that achilles injuries take 2 years to be fully healed so I wonder how he'd look in 2023, but with the depth they have, they probably can't afford him at 14+ mil. Make sure you get Huff back. Need at least one upgrade at S. That's the glaring weakness IMO LB is tricky. I like CJ, unfortunate he's making the money he is though. Like Kwon and Quincy overall, but it's not a great group. Might be good enough though. Other positions are the priority but a draft prospect would be nice
or a 2 year 25 million deal (or something like that) with an opt out clause that he can exercise if he has a big season.
Rookie year stats of Rosen and Wilson (13 games): 3-10 record, 2278 yards, 11 tds, 14 ints, 55.2% 3-10 record, 2334 yards, 9 tds, 11 ints, 55.6% Mike White in 7 games (6 starts): 2-4 record, 1905 yards, 8 tds, 10 ints, 64.4%
