The Mike White Era Begins

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  1. BrooklynJetsFan

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    Listen i’ll root for him in preseason next year. Maybe he can become Mahomes one day soon.

    For now, i don’t want to hear or see his name for the rest of the season, because if he comes back and sucks really bad, he’s done!!!!
     
  2. ColoradoContrails

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    You ought to tell that to all the Mike White fan bois who weren't content to see White take over and then put up better numbers than Wilson, and just had to make a point of constantly bashing Zach. It hasn't been the Wilson supporters who have been bringing him and saying he should be starting. As far as I'm concerned we don't need to talk about Zach unless he returns to action.
     
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  3. george sakell

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    Jets offense averaging 420 yards a game with Mike White 3rd most in the Nfl, the Jets offense with Zack 286.9 and half probally Came from Breece when he was playing. That's all you need to know Mike White haters so shut up!! We will never trade for or draft a Josh Allen/Mahomes, last Qb that was even remotely close to them we woulda sent 10 draft picks and paid him a gazilion dollars even though he was a rapist. So be happy we have Mike White because if he was a paraplegic he would still be better than Sanchez/Darnold/Hackenberg/ Wilson and every other bust we ever drafted. If you gave Mike White Breece hall and the defensive support Zack had he would never lose a game.
     
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  4. red75bronco

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    No, Zach threw interception when he over threw the back in middle of field. Next play Jones throws pick 6. JFM rouging passer. Would have been 17-3 going into half. Instead, Pats kick field goal. Makes it 10-6. Defense gets completely used on opening drive of second half. When o get ball back, it is then 13-10. Defense then allowed another 3 FGs as Pats completely controlled clock and drove the ball into FG range. That game is 100% victory if not for JFM.
     
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  5. red75bronco

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    You have seen it for 2 weeks. Can’t score in red zone. Moves the ball with mostly check downs, not a bad thing, but can’t put it into end zone. As soon as the 0-10 yard passes are gone, the offense stalls. He is a stats guy. Hasn’t led to points in last two weeks. Terrible results in red zone.
     
  6. red75bronco

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    Seriously, are you Mike White or his wife? I could care less about MWs passing yards. Passing yards do not equal wins. His red zone effectiveness is straight garbage. Bottom of the league. He also has played exactly one defense that is not bottom 5 in the league. How many 100 yard games did Breece have? He is a complete stud, but you should actually look up his stats since you are mister stat guy. Are you telling me white does not have the defense Zach had? I have a stat for you, the wonderful game White had his most yards the only game that ZW had a worse QBR was the second NE game. And another one, Whites QB rating if you take out the absolutely terrible bears defense is worse than ZW.

    I am not saying ZW is even good, I am saying I have no understanding for the love for White. Then add on the dimension Zach provides with his legs, and I believe he gives the team a better chance to win. Doesn’t really matter what we think, there are 4 games left. Need to win all to go to playoffs. If white does, he will have same record as ZW. Doesn’t, he won’t and jest will probably miss playoffs.
     
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  7. george sakell

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    So who do you say replaces Mike White, what is this a video game where you can just trade Zack Wilson and a 7th round pick for Mahomes? Mike White is atleast top 20 Qb's in the league at this point it's better than alot of teams have, Teams usually lock up good quarterbacks and it's impossible to trade for them, so tell me who's better we can trade for or sign that is better than Mike White next year huh? Do you really want to give Carr a ridiculous contract and hope he can handle the pressure of playing in New York or Grappolo who is injury prone? Common we can get Mike White on the cheap and spend the little money we have left on a offensive line to protect him. You do realize if we get desperate and sign either to a ridiculous contract we won't have money to sign Q cause hes gonna want a ridiculous contract? I rather have Q and White than Carr or Grappolo and Q gone. Be Grateful we finally atleast have a competent quarterback who the team loves by the way and not some Chump who throws a 2 yard pass into the dirt time and time again and is afraid to get hit. Mike White is the best Qb the Jets had since Pennington to say the least.
     
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  8. BrooklynJetsFan

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    Haha! good thing you don’t coach the Jets.
     
  9. BrooklynJetsFan

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    No it doesn’t. Breece Hall legs won those games.
     
  10. BroadwayAaron

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    It’s almost as if QBR is stupid and should never be taken seriously before it passes the eye test which it doesn’t.
     
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    You didn't answer my question
     
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    Here’s the actual truth:

     
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    Yeah, this talk track about only taking checkdowns is kind of dumb…firstly, it’s ok to take what the defense gives you…shit, Brady made a living off of five yard passes to Welker and then Edelman…but regardless, Zach can’t even do that. It’s ridiculous.

    however, the red zone issue is real and we need to figure that out….when you get inside the 20 you need to get TDs not FGs, and we haven’t been able to do that the last two weeks and it cost us two games…I think White lack of mobility hurts here a bit as well as the poor OL play…

    whatever it is we need to figure it out because we are now pretty much in must win mode for the last four games
     
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    Imagine still thinking Zach Wilson gives you the best chance to win, then saying you don't understand the love for Mike White. Love in which basically no one has said he's even the QB next year.
     
  15. red75bronco

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    Let White beat some one other than a really bad bears team.
     
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    It does, but Wilson still threw 3 picks, all of which were a result of lazy QB play. Throwing off a back foot, not throwing the ball out of bounds, and just chucking one downfield.

    Zach left at least 100-150 yards of offense on the field that day. That was a nightmare game from him.
     
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    He'd be doing that if the Jets were running the ball half the time. Which is what they did against the Bears.

    The last two games are on Mike LaFleur.
     
  18. BroadwayAaron

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    Massive false equivalency here. The Bears were never up two scores like the Vikings or Bills were. No team in the NFL runs more than they pass when they are down 17.
     
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  19. red75bronco

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    Again, all the projections of stats are based on the Bears game. What were there 12 completions where no one was 5 yds from WR? Can’t find it now, but find the stats of the QBs in the red zone, White and Flacco are terrible, ZW is average.

    Look, I am just sick of losing and I don’t think White is anything special. I also don’t think ZW has played well enough. I believe that the Jets are screwed if Wilson cannot fix things that includes next year. Jets need Wilson to be the guy, White is not the guy.
     
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  20. red75bronco

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    I have been complaining about LFluer forever. Told it was all Zach. Complained he did not play to his strengths. RPO plays, empty backfield, roll outs, way too many long route combinations with the Oline. Now he is doing all kinds of dump offs, screens, empty back fields, throwing the ball 40 plus times a game. Jets are losing, but fans love it because of fantasy stats. Wilson threw for over 300 yards when he threw over 40 times as well. We also lost. I would like to see the stat, but I bet teams are about 500 when throwing for over 300yards.
     
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