One Complaint This Season: The Bubble Screen

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  1. DevTeam

    DevTeam Well-Known Member

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    It's funny that the bubble screen ended up killing the Jets season yesterday, because since late october, I've been railing on them to other fans about running this stupid screen play over and over again. It just doesn't work. They never really got anything out of this stupid play, and if I just had a dollar for every time they lost yardage or almost had one picked off this GD play -- I'd be a rich man by now.

    I'm sure the Pats knew about how much they loved this stupid play, and that's probably a big reason why colvin knew it was coming.

    I'm very pleased with how this whole season went, but my one complaint from the season was this dumb obsession with the screen play.
     
  2. The U

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    If the Jets could have executed that screen Cotchery would have gained at least 20 yards, the Jets had the blocking down field. Just a nice play by Colvin.
     
  3. TommyGreen

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    Absolutely. If there was a time to execute that particular play, that point was the best. He had a clear road.
     
  4. jilozzo

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    its actually a great play when run properly starting with the QB and ending with the blocking downfield.

    i have seen some creative QB's "sling" the ball under the arms of the DE/LB to avoid trying to get the ball over the outstretched arms.

    for CP and his deliberate release and footwork - its probably a better play to his right.

    jil

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  5. Gubernaculum

    Gubernaculum New Member

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    People never mention one thing- Colvin is a GREAT player and Belicheck obviously prepared them for that play. That's the deadly combo of talent and good coaching.
     
  6. DevTeam

    DevTeam Well-Known Member

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    Alright guys. But I'm not dreaming, this stupid screen play rarely works and has caused more harm than good this year.
     
  7. BIG COUNTRY

    BIG COUNTRY Well-Known Member

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    Thats because Pennington always just throws it making it obvious. A fake would work downfield, or else a fake, get the d-man up, throw it under would work. That play is a very god play ir run correctly.
     
  8. DevTeam

    DevTeam Well-Known Member

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    Well then, I guess we just don't run it correctly. THe point is, after how many busted screen passes do you just pull the plug on that play?
     
  9. Beamen

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    We ran it earlier in the game, and JMac got called on a BS hold, but it was a well executed successful play...
     
  10. DevTeam

    DevTeam Well-Known Member

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    When a play gets called back on a penalty, I don't refer to it as successful... but that's just me.
     
  11. joejets1

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    actually i think that play has worked well for them this year and did work earlier in the game except for a bad holding call against JMac.
     
  12. CaneJet

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    I'll accept this play from the Jets in the future with one proviso: that if the ball falls to the ground, it is to be treated as a live ball until the ref blows his whistle.

    Coaching point to the Bellichimp on that one.
     
  13. Big Poppa Naich

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    I would prefer to see screen passes out of a shotgun just because then you don't have to worry about backward laterals.
     
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    Finally someone who was paying attention. All it took was Ferguson getting his man on the ground and that's another 10+ (Im being conservative)
     
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    But the time it takes for Chad to get the snap, reposition the ball to throw it, etc, takes the timing of the play away.
     
  16. Coach K

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    Actually I blame the turnover from that play on D'Brickashaw. He knew they were running a left screen, what does he do? he backpedals the whole way and lets Colvin get face first in the pocket and smack it down.

    This is a consistent problem I've seen with Brick, he is horrendous at the point of attack. now I know it was a pass play so he wasnt sposed to intitiate contact, but what he shouldve done was at least start popping him 1 yard off the line instead of letting the pocket collapse.


    just because hes in front of his defender doesnt mean hes doing anything.
     
  17. johnny

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    Agreed, I have no idea why Ferguson didn't try to block Colvin on that play. You would think that the LT is supposed to get his hands into the onrushing LB before he has a chance to get his hands up and alter the pass.
     
  18. red75bronco

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    We ran it because we had no running game. A running game that can get yards on 1st down and we don't run it.
     
  19. Cinvis

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    Timing is everything on this play. If Chad fakes a throw, then our recivers would be called for pass interference, since they would have started blocking while the ball was in the air. The QB has to run it as it is designed.
     
  20. RobA

    RobA 2005-2007 TGG.com Most Optimistic Award Winner

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    I think Leon did a nice job yesterday. 11 carries for 50 yds. You can't ask for more than 4.5 ypc. We should've ran the ball more.
     

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